linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH v4 3/3] bpf: Introduce function for outputing data to perf event

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Message-ID: <20150713140915.GD9917@danjae.kornet>
Date:	Mon, 13 Jul 2015 23:09:15 +0900
From:	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>
To:	pi3orama <pi3orama@....com>
Cc:	He Kuang <hekuang@...wei.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...mgrid.com>,
	"rostedt@...dmis.org" <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	"masami.hiramatsu.pt@...achi.com" <masami.hiramatsu.pt@...achi.com>,
	"acme@...nel.org" <acme@...nel.org>,
	"a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl" <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	"mingo@...hat.com" <mingo@...hat.com>,
	"jolsa@...nel.org" <jolsa@...nel.org>,
	"wangnan0@...wei.com" <wangnan0@...wei.com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 3/3] bpf: Introduce function for outputing data to
 perf event

On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 10:01:26PM +0800, pi3orama wrote:
> 
> 
> 发自我的 iPhone
> 
> > 在 2015年7月13日，下午9:52，Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org> 写道：
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> >> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 12:36:27PM +0800, He Kuang wrote:
> >> hi, Alexei
> >> 
> >>> On 2015/7/11 6:10, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> >>>> On 7/10/15 3:03 AM, He Kuang wrote:
> >>>> There're scenarios that we need an eBPF program to record not only
> >>>> kprobe point args, but also the PMU counters, time latencies or the
> >>>> number of cache misses between two probe points and other information
> >>>> when the probe point is entered.
> >>>> 
> >>>> This patch adds a new trace event to establish infrastruction for bpf to
> >>>> output data to perf. Userspace perf tools can detect and use this event
> >>>> as using the existing tracepoint events.
> >>>> 
> >>>> New bpf trace event entry in debugfs:
> >>>> 
> >>>>     /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/bpf/bpf_output_data
> >>>> 
> >>>> Userspace perf tools detect the new tracepoint event as:
> >>>> 
> >>>>     bpf:bpf_output_data                          [Tracepoint event]
> >>> 
> >>> Nice! This approach looks cleanest so far.
> >>> 
> >>>> +TRACE_EVENT(bpf_output_data,
> >>>> +
> >>>> +    TP_PROTO(u64 *src, int len),
> >>>> +
> >>>> +    TP_ARGS(src, len),
> >>>> +
> >>>> +    TP_STRUCT__entry(
> >>>> +        __dynamic_array(u64,        buf,        len)
> >>>> +    ),
> >>>> +
> >>>> +    TP_fast_assign(
> >>>> +        memcpy(__get_dynamic_array(buf), src, len * sizeof(u64));
> >>> 
> >>> may be make it 'u8' array? The extra multiply and...
> >> 
> >> OK
> >> 
> >> So the output of three u64 integers (e.g. 0x2060572485, 0x20667b0ff2,
> >> 0x623eb6d) will be this:
> >> 
> >>  dd 994 [000] 139.158180: bpf:bpf_output_data: 85 24 57 60 20 00 00 00
> >>  f2 0f 7b 66 20 00 00 00 6d eb 23 06 00 00 00 00
> >> 
> >> And users are not restricted to u64 type elements. I'll change that.
> > 
> > While this general event format works well, I think it might be hard
> > to know which output came from which program when more than one bpf
> > programs used.
> > 
> > I was thinking about providing custom event formats for each bpf
> > program (if needed).  The event format definitions might be in a
> > specific directory or a bpf object itself.  Then perf can read those
> > formats and print the output data according to the formats.  Maybe we
> > need to add some dynamic event id to match format and data.
> > 
>
> I think we can do it in perf side. Let BPF programs themselves
> encode format information into the array and make perf read and
> decode them. In kernel side simply support raw data should be
> enough, so we can make kernel code as simple as possible.

Yes, of course, I also meant that doing those work all in perf side. :)

Thanks,
Namhyung
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