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Date:	Tue, 21 Jul 2015 16:09:16 -0400
From:	Josh Boyer <jwboyer@...oraproject.org>
To:	Casey Schaufler <casey@...aufler-ca.com>
Cc:	Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
	linux-security-module <linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org>,
	James Morris <james.l.morris@...cle.com>,
	linux-doc@...r.kernel.org,
	"Linux-Kernel@...r. Kernel. Org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Yama: remove needless CONFIG_SECURITY_YAMA_STACKED

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Casey Schaufler <casey@...aufler-ca.com> wrote:
> On 7/21/2015 12:09 PM, Kees Cook wrote:
>> Now that minor LSMs can cleanly stack with major LSMs, remove the unneeded
>> config for Yama to be made to explicitly stack. Just selecting the main
>> Yama CONFIG will allow it to work, regardless of the major LSM. Since
>> distros using Yama are already forcing it to stack, this is effectively
>> a no-op change.
>
> Today I can compile in all LSMs including Yama and pick the one I want.
> If we made your change it would be impossible to build in Yama and not
> use it. I suggest we hold off until after the security summit discussion

This is true, but it's also true regardless of stacking.  If Yama had
a CONFIG_SECURITY_YAMA_ENABLED (or whatever bikeshed color), then you
could enable Yama and not use it, yes?  It would also allow people to
default it as disabled, but then enable it at runtime via the
ptrace_scope sysctl.

josh
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