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Date:	Tue, 28 Jul 2015 14:02:25 +0100
From:	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>
To:	Alexey Klimov <klimov.linux@...il.com>
Cc:	"linux-samsung-soc@...r.kernel.org" 
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	<linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>, marc.zyngier@....com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] clocksource: exynos_mct: allow mct to use 64-bit
 counter from coprocessor

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 10:28:27PM +0100, Alexey Klimov wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> year(s) ago it was discovered that MCT timer and ARM architectured
> timer
> are the same hardware with different interface. Here [1].

Are they actually interfaces to the same timer, or are they just fed by
the same system counter?

> I followed mail-list discussions about removing MCT and using arch
> timer for Exynos5-based SoCs but things aren't moving at least latest
> upstream kernel on odroid-xu3 will use MCT as default timers.
> Maybe the reason are some power-management related things that very
> specific to Samsung. I don't know.
> 
> 
> Idea of this draft patchset comes from Doug patches when he tried to
> optimize read of 64-bit counter located in mmio. [2]
> Why not using cp15 counter instead if possible?

If they're the same device, then you can simply use the architected
timer, and gain all the benefits without additional code. That could
give you additional benefits (e.g. VDSO support).

> Previous numbers for 1000000 gettimeofday() calls from userspace
> are about 1 ms. With this patches we have 0.5 ms or even better.
> So twice as fast.
> 
> Just as matter of interest i tried to perform 2000000 sched_yield()
> calls from userspace. I see around 20% speedup with patches applied.
> 
> I tried to use hackbench but it's hard to feel the difference, maybe
> speedup is 0.5% but with bad fluctuation.
> 
> Everything is tested on odroid-xu3.
> Looks like Cortex-A9 based Samsung SoCs (odroid-u2, odroid-x) don't
> have arch timer.
> 
> [1] http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2014
> -May/256943.html
> [2] https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/6/20/431
> 
> 
> 
> Current code created with such assumptions: 
> -- don't want to insert huge refactoring in MCT code;
> -- target platform only ARMv7 Exynos5-based SoC that works in 32-bit
> mode so i don't want to build described functionality on ARM64.

For arm64 the generic timer is mandatory, and I can't imagine a case
where we wouldn't use it in preference.

> Currently i'm trying to patch odroid-xu3 DT only.
> -- firmware on odroid-xu3 is broken and secondary cores start
> in SVC mode instead of HYP mode. Maybe i can remove check for hyp mode;
> -- in addition instead of DT property I may parse PFR regs and find
> Generic Timer Extension there.

ID_PFR1.GenTimer only tells you whether or not the generic timer is
implemented in the CPU, not how it's wired up (e.g. whether it shares
the system counter with the MCT), so I don't think it tells you anything
useful.

Thanks,
Mark.
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