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Message-ID: <20150728150636.GA1656@mail.hallyn.com>
Date:	Tue, 28 Jul 2015 10:06:36 -0500
From:	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@...lyn.com>
To:	Casey Schaufler <casey@...aufler-ca.com>
Cc:	Sungbae Yoo <sungbae.yoo@...sung.com>,
	'Lukasz Pawelczyk' <l.pawelczyk@...sung.com>,
	'James Morris' <james.l.morris@...cle.com>,
	"'Serge E. Hallyn'" <serge@...lyn.com>,
	linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Smack: replace capable() with ns_capable()

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 07:36:30AM -0700, Casey Schaufler wrote:
> On 7/26/2015 6:27 PM, Sungbae Yoo wrote:
> > So, Do you agree to allow the process to change its own labels?
> 
> No. This requires CAP_MAC_ADMIN. Smack is mandatory access control.
> Being in a namespace (as they are implemented today) is not sufficient.

"requires CAP_MAC_ADMIN" should probably read "requires
CAP_MAC_ADMIN against initial user namespace."  Any unprivileged
user can unshare a user_ns and get CAP_MAC_ADMIN.

I'm terribly sorry I'm not yet caught up on the smack-lsm thread.
But intuitively I'd think that you'd want a way for smack policy
to say "this label is allowed to create a user-ns which will be
allowed to CAP_MAC_ADMIN", so then smack_capable() can use that
information to cleanly deny CAP_MAC_ADMIN in namespaces.

-serge
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