linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 1/5] iTCO_wdt: Expose watchdog properties using platform data

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Message-ID: <20150729073013.GE2284@x1>
Date:	Wed, 29 Jul 2015 08:30:13 +0100
From:	Lee Jones <lee.jones@...aro.org>
To:	Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>
Cc:	Matt Fleming <matt@...eblueprint.co.uk>,
	Wim Van Sebroeck <wim@...ana.be>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-watchdog@...r.kernel.org,
	Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@...ux.intel.com>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@...ux.intel.com>,
	Jean Delvare <jdelvare@...e.com>,
	Wolfram Sang <wsa@...-dreams.de>,
	Matt Fleming <matt.fleming@...el.com>,
	Peter Tyser <ptyser@...-inc.com>,
	Samuel Ortiz <sameo@...ux.intel.com>,
	Aaron Sierra <asierra@...-inc.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] iTCO_wdt: Expose watchdog properties using platform
 data

On Tue, 28 Jul 2015, Guenter Roeck wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 06:32:16PM +0100, Lee Jones wrote:
> > On Tue, 28 Jul 2015, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > 
> > > On 07/28/2015 08:28 AM, Lee Jones wrote:
> > > >On Tue, 28 Jul 2015, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>On 07/28/2015 08:00 AM, Lee Jones wrote:
> > > >>>On Tue, 28 Jul 2015, Matt Fleming wrote:
> > > >>>>On Tue, 28 Jul, at 12:37:21PM, Lee Jones wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>The driver shouldn't be called that either.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>You are the only one.  What makes iTCO 'special'?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>I don't know, I didn't write it. It looks like Wim did ~9 years ago, so
> > > >>>>it must have made sense to him at the time.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>
> > > >>Coding style wasn't as strict then as it is today. iTCO has just been kept
> > > >>for historic reasons.
> > > >
> > > >For sure, I get that, but it doesn't mean we can't do-the-right-thing
> > > >(tm) now does it?
> > > >
> > > >>Sure, we could have changed it to lowercase, but so far no one bothered.
> > > >>Plus, of course, there is always the element that some maintainers hate
> > > >>that kind of cleanup,
> > > >
> > > >Really?  Surely any kind of clean-up is good clean-up.  Especially as
> > > >Greg KH et. al, have been doing public presentations telling everyone
> > > >that there is always kernel work for anyone who has the time; spelling
> > > >corrections and all.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Yes, really. Just try to submit cleanup patches to maintainers other than
> > > Greg and myself, and you'll see. It is a minefield.
> > 
> > Admittedly some of us have our quirks, but I'm happy to challenge
> > anyone that won't accept clean-up patches that make things better.
> > 
> There might possibly be a discussion at the kernel summit about that,
> in the context of encouraging (or discouraging) new kernel developers.
> If you are invited to the KS, it might make sense to attend that discussion.

I'd be happy to, but I don't have any first-hand experience of these
awkward (backward) Maintainers, who for some reason thing 'no change'
("don't touch it, it works"?) is better than 'improvement'. 

If/when you come across it, a link would be appreciated.

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