Message-Id: <9FFA6584-4803-4C59-BDD8-FDF471FBD9F9@163.com>
Date:	Thu, 30 Jul 2015 04:00:03 +0800
From:	pi3orama <pi3orama@....com>
To:	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...mgrid.com>
Cc:	He Kuang <hekuang@...wei.com>, "Wangnan (F)" <wangnan0@...wei.com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: llvm bpf debug info. Re: [RFC PATCH v4 3/3] bpf: Introduce function for outputing data to perf event



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> 在 2015年7月30日，上午1:13，Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...mgrid.com> 写道：
> 
>> On 7/29/15 2:38 AM, He Kuang wrote:
>> Hi, Alexei
>> 
>>> On 2015/7/28 10:18, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>>>> On 7/25/15 3:04 AM, He Kuang wrote:
>>>> I noticed that for 64-bit elf format, the reloc sections have
>>>> 'Addend' in the entry, but there's no 'Addend' info in bpf elf
>>>> file(64bit). I think there must be something wrong in the process
>>>> of .s -> .o, which related to 64bit/32bit. Anyway, we can parse out the
>>>> AT_name now, DW_AT_LOCATION still missed and need your help.
>>> 
>>> looks like objdump/llvm-dwarfdump can only read known EM,
>>> but that that shouldn't be the problem for your dwarf reader right?
>>> It should be able to recognize id-s of ELF::R_X86_64_* relo used right?
>>> As far as AT_location for testprog.c it seems there is no info for
>>> local variables because they were optimized away.
>>> With -O0 I see AT_location being emitted.
>>> Also line number info seems to be good in both cases.
>>> But in our case, we don't need this anyway, no? we need to see
>>> the types of structs mainly or you have some other use cases?
>>> I think line number info would be great to correlate the error reported
>>> by verifier into specific line in C.
>> 
>> Yes, without AT_location, we can lookup the user output data type
>> by line number, but there're some issues when we look deep.
>> 
>> There're two steps of work that should be done in user space,
>> first we embed data type into bpf output record, then we use this
>> type, or index or some other identifier to lookup the type from
>> dwarf info, so we got a few plans.
>> 
>> * Plan A. Use line number to identify the user data type
>> 
>> Predefined macros:
>> 
>>   #define DEFINE_BPF_OUTPUT_DATA(type,
>> var)                               \
>>           const int BPF_OUTPUT_LINE__##var = __LINE__; type var;
>> 
>>   #define BPF_OUTPUT_TRACE_DATA(data, size)       \
>>           __bpf_output_trace_data(BPF_OUTPUT_LINE__##data, &data, size)
>> 
>> User defined BPF code:
>> 
>>   struct user_define_struct {
>>          ...
>>   };
>> 
>>   int testprog(int myvar_a, long myvar_b)
>>   {
>>           DEFINE_BPF_OUTPUT_DATA(struct user_define_struct, myvar_c);
>> 
>>           BPF_OUTPUT_TRACE_DATA(myvar_c, sizeof(myvar_c));
>> 
>>   ...
>> 
>> We use macros to embed linenum implicitly, which leads an extra
>> restriction that user should not define multiple variables in the
>> same line and not split the macro over multiple lines, like this:
>> 
>>   22 DEFINE_BPF_OUTPUT_DATA(struct xxtype, a);
>> DEFINE_BPF_OUTPUT_DATA(struct xxtype, b);
>> 
>> Or
>> 
>>   22 DEFINE_BPF_OUTPUT_DATA(struct user_define_struct,
>>   23                               myvar_c);
>> 
>> DW_AT_decl_line = 22, while __LINE__ = 23
>> 
>> So we should add verifier in the llvm BPF backend to warn on the
>> above codes.
>> 
>> * Plan B. Lookup variable type from dwarf AT_location info
>> 
>> We can make use of the output data variable's address, for bpf is
>> a minus offset to frame base. Then lookup matched offset from
>> location info(e.g. "DW_OP_fbreg: -32") to identify the variable
>> type.
>> 
>> For getting the frame base address, we can use builtin functions
>> like __builtin_frame_base() and __builtin_dwarf_cfa() which
>> returns the call frame base address. Currently those builtin
>> functions are not implemented in BPF lower operation yet, so we
>> tested our bpf program by using a variable tag on frame base, as
>> following:
>> 
>>   struct user_define_struct {
>>      ...
>>   };
>> 
>>   typedef struct {} frame_base_tag;
>> 
>>   int testprog(void)
>>   {
>>       frame_base_tag BPF_FRAME_BASE;
>>       struct user_define_struct myvar_a;
>> 
>>       __bpf_trace_output_data((void *)&myvar_a - (void *)&BPF_FRAME_BASE,
>>                               &myvar_a, sizeof(myvar_a));
>>   ...
>> 
>> The first argument of __bpf_trace_output_data() will be caculated
>> and it's easy to traverse the variable DIEs in dwarf info and
>> check each DW_AT_location attribute to find the corresponding
>> variable type.
>> 
>> The things let us worry about is the opimization may reuse the
>> stack space which can cause different variables share the same
>> address, by some rough tests that kind of optimization does not
>> appear.
>> 
>> * Comparison
>> 
>> Plan A needs less effort and easy to implement, but requires more
>> check to ensure user not use multiple definition in the same line
>> and not use macro cross lines.
>> 
>> The advantages of plan B is that we do not need introduce macros
>> showed in above example and all the things are done implicitly,
>> but the AT_location info is the prerequisite of this plan, I'm
>> not sure whether we can guarantee this info in dwarf or not.
>> 
>> Another way we can think of is adding new builtin functions to
>> indicate the compilier to generate codes return the dwarf type
>> index directly:
>> 
>>   __bpf_trace_output_data(__builtin_dwarf_type(myvar_a), &myvar_a, size);
> 
> probably both A and B won't really work when programs get bigger
> and optimizations will start moving lines around.
> the builtin_dwarf_type idea is actually quite interesting.
> Potentially that builtin can stringify type name and later we can
> search it in dwarf. Please take a look how to add such builtin.
> There are few similar builtins that deal with exception handling
> and need type info. May be they can be reused. Like:
> int_eh_typeid_for and int_eh_dwarf_cfa
> 

Hi Alexei,

I was wondering if you could give us a hint on adding BPF specific builtins?

Doesn't like other machines, currently there's no Builtins.def for BPF to hold
builtins for that specific target. If we start creating such builtins, we can bring
more there. One builtins I want to see should be __builtin_bpf_strcmp(char*, char*),
with that we can filter events base on name of a task. What I really need is filtering 
events based on comm of the main thread, which should be useful on Android 
since in Android name of working threads are always something like "Binder_?", 
only the main threads names are meaningful. But let's work on strcmp first.

Thank you.
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