Message-ID: <20150730172517.GB131344@ubuntu-hedt>
Date:	Thu, 30 Jul 2015 12:25:17 -0500
From:	Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@...onical.com>
To:	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>
Cc:	Casey Schaufler <casey@...aufler-ca.com>,
	Stephen Smalley <sds@...ho.nsa.gov>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
	LSM List <linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org>,
	SELinux-NSA <selinux@...ho.nsa.gov>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@...onical.com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] Initial support for user namespace owned mounts

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 12:05:27PM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Casey Schaufler <casey@...aufler-ca.com> writes:
> 
> > On 7/28/2015 1:40 PM, Seth Forshee wrote:
> >> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 05:05:17PM -0700, Casey Schaufler wrote:
> >>>> This is what I currently think you want for user ns mounts:
> >>>>
> >>>>  1. smk_root and smk_default are assigned the label of the backing
> >>>>     device.
> >>>>  2. s_root is assigned the transmute property.
> >>>>  3. For existing files:
> >>>>     a. Files with the same label as the backing device are accessible.
> >>>>     b. Files with any other label are not accessible.
> >>> That's right. Accept correct data, reject anything that's not right.
> >>>
> >>>> If this is right, there are a couple lingering questions in my mind.
> >>>>
> >>>> First, what happens with files created in directories with the same
> >>>> label as the backing device but without the transmute property set? The
> >>>> inode for the new file will initially be labeled with smk_of_current(),
> >>>> but then during d_instantiate it will get smk_default and thus end up
> >>>> with the label we want. So that seems okay.
> >>> Yes.
> >>>
> >>>> The second is whether files with the SMACK64EXEC attribute is still a
> >>>> problem. It seems it is, for files with the same label as the backing
> >>>> store at least. I think we can simply skip the code that reads out this
> >>>> xattr and sets smk_task for user ns mounts, or else skip assigning the
> >>>> label to the new task in bprm_set_creds. The latter seems more
> >>>> consistent with the approach you've suggested for dealing with labels
> >>>> from disk.
> >>> Yes, I think that skipping the smk_fetch(XATTR_NAME_SMACKEXEC, ...) in
> >>> smack_d_instantiate for unprivileged mounts would do the trick.
> >>>
> >>>> So I guess all of that seems okay, though perhaps a bit restrictive
> >>>> given that the user who mounted the filesystem already has full access
> >>>> to the backing store.
> >>> In truth, there is no reason to expect that the "user" who did the
> >>> mount will ever have a Smack label that differs from the label of
> >>> the backing store. If what we've got here seems restrictive, it's
> >>> because you've got access from someone other than the "user".
> >>>
> >>>> Please let me know whether or not this matches up with what you are
> >>>> thinking, then I can procede with the implementation.
> >>> My current mindset is that, if you're going to allow unprivileged
> >>> mounts of user defined backing stores, this is as safe as we can
> >>> make it.
> >> All right, I've got a patch which I think does this, and I've managed to
> >> do some testing to confirm that it behaves like I expect. How does this
> >> look?
> >>
> >> What's missing is getting the label from the block device inode; as
> >> Stephen discovered the inode that I thought we could get the label from
> >> turned out to be the wrong one. Afaict we would need a new hook in order
> >> to do that, so for now I'm using the label of the proccess calling
> >> mount.
> >
> > That will be OK if the mount processing checks for write access to
> > the backing store. I haven't looked to see if it does. If it doesn't
> > the problems should be pretty obvious.
> 
> 
> do_new_mount
>   vfs_kern_mount
>     mount_fs
>       ...
>         mount_bdev
>           blkdev_get_by_path(...,FMODE_READ| FMODE_WRITE | FMODE_EXCL,...)
>             lookup_bdev
>               kern_path
>                 filename_lookup
>                   path_lookupat
>                     lookup_last
>                       walk_component
>             blkdev_get(...,mode,...)
>               __blkdev_get(...,mode,...)
>                 devcgroup_inode_permission(bdev->bd_inode, perm)
> 
> *scratches my head*
> 
> It looks like we don't actually check the permissions on the block
> device.  Tomoyo has a hack for it.  nfsd does something.  There is
> devcgroup silliness.
> 
> But overall it looks like we depend on capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN).
> 
> Seth I do believe we have found another area of the vfs we will need to
> short up before allowing unprivileged mounts of block device based
> filesystems.
> 
> It looks like there are enough hacks someone with a clue coming through
> and making the code make more sense seems like a good idea anyway.

Yep, I just came to the same conclusion myself, and I also verified the
behavior emperically. That's definitely a problem. I'll get to work on
fixing that.

Seth
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