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Message-ID: <55CE24B8.5030508@collabora.co.uk>
Date:	Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:26:16 -0300
From:	Danilo Cesar Lemes de Paula <danilo.cesar@...labora.co.uk>
To:	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>
Cc:	linux-doc@...r.kernel.org, Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...radead.org>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@...ll.ch>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@...asonboard.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>,
	Stephan Mueller <smueller@...onox.de>,
	Michal Marek <mmarek@...e.cz>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	intel-gfx <intel-gfx@...ts.freedesktop.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Add support for Hyperlinks and Markup on kernel-doc

On 08/13/2015 08:20 PM, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 20:09:35 -0300
> Danilo Cesar Lemes de Paula <danilo.cesar@...labora.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> Did you find time to take a look on this?
> 
> No.  Just when I thought things couldn't get crazier, my laptop died.  
> 
> 	https://plus.google.com/+JonathanCorbet/posts/FBHp48dPb95
> 
> What spare time I had has been dedicated to recovering from that in time
> to give my talk next week.

Those evil machines... =)

>  
>> I understand that there's some discussion behind the curtains regarding
>> the markdown support, but the cross-reference-hyperlink patch is also in
>> the same patch series. It doesn't change any text in the docbook unless
>> there's really a cross-reference link to it. Different from the markdown
>> support (when people start to use markdown to write docs it will be hard
>> to go back), the cross-link stuff doesn't require/create any change to
>> current documentation, it is pretty safe to use.
>>
>> Would you mind to share your plans about this?
> 
> No behind-the-curtains discussions happening, or, let's say, if there
> are, I've not been invited either.

I meant the Kernel summit mailing list, but looks like that thread died
even before my patches.

> 
> I'd like to get back to the cross-reference stuff.  Last I tried, it
> failed while building the media docs; have you been able to look at
> that?  

I did, and I didn't find anything.
Media API already spits lots of warnings without my patch. I did send
those warnings to a file and count them. My patch produces the same
amount of warnings as the original branch.
I did, however, use a clean build to test that. Daniel Vetter complained
that the Documentation was being rebuilt all the time, something wrong
with the dependencies. I did fix that in v2. Maybe the errors you got
were related to it?


> 
> Longer term, as you may know from the kernel summit discussions, I'd
> really like to get rid of a lot of the XML gunk and put in something more
> straightforward, be it based on Markdown or something else.  Doing that,
> however, requires that I find the time to implement something that's
> convincingly better.  It may happen soon, but I sure can't guarantee it.
> 
> Meanwhile, I think it would be a horrible mistake to delay useful work
> because I have a gleam in my eye to do something different one of these
> years, so I'll not do that.  I fully expect to merge all of the stuff
> you've done, I just need to have a good look at it and test it out a
> bit.  As I said before, I can't promise that for the 4.3 merge window,
> but I'll try.
> 
> Apologies,

No need to apologize, just wanted to know what was going on.

Danilo Cesar
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