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Date:	Wed, 26 Aug 2015 00:46:46 +0200
From:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>
To:	Jon Hunter <jonathanh@...dia.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
	Vinod Koul <vinod.koul@...el.com>
CC:	Laxman Dewangan <ldewangan@...dia.com>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@...dotorg.org>,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@...il.com>,
	Alexandre Courbot <gnurou@...il.com>,
	dmaengine@...r.kernel.org, linux-tegra@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, devicetree@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/7] DMA: tegra-apb: Correct runtime-pm usage

On 8/25/2015 11:37 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
> On 25/08/15 01:04, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>> On Monday, August 24, 2015 07:51:43 PM Vinod Koul wrote:
>>> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 02:22:49PM +0100, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>>> On 24/08/15 10:22, Vinod Koul wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 09:47:13AM +0100, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>>>>> On 23/08/15 15:17, Vinod Koul wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 02:49:09PM +0100, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> @@ -1543,7 +1531,7 @@ static int tegra_dma_pm_suspend(struct device *dev)
>>>>>>>>   	int ret;
>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>   	/* Enable clock before accessing register */
>>>>>>>> -	ret = tegra_dma_runtime_resume(dev);
>>>>>>>> +	ret = pm_runtime_get_sync(dev);
>>>>>>> why is this required ?
>>>>>> Because the clock could be disabled when this function is called. This
>>>>>> function saves the DMA context so that if the context is lost during
>>>>>> suspend, it can be restored.
>>>>> Have you verified this? Coz my understanding is that when PM does suspend it
>>>>> will esnure you are runtime resume if runtime suspended and then will do
>>>>> suspend.
>>>>> So you do not need to do above
>>>> I see what you are saying. I did some testing with ftrace today to trace
>>>> rpm and suspend/resume calls. If the dma controller is runtime suspended
>>>> and I do not call pm_runtime_get_sync() above then I do not see any
>>>> runtime resume of the dma controller prior to suspend. Now I was hoping
>>>> that this would cause a complete kernel crash but it did not and so the
>>>> DMA clock did not appear to be needed here (at least on the one board I
>>>> tested). However, I would not go as far as to remove this and prefer to
>>>> keep as above.
>>> Okay am adding Rafael here for his recommendations.
>> Well, and what is the question I'm supposed to answer, exactly?
>>
>> I was in Seattle last week, so haven't been following this closely.
>>
>>> I have tested in past and if my driver was runtime suspended we were resumed
>>> prior to being suspended. So I am not sure why you did not see that
>>> behaviour, and if that is right we don't need to force resume here
>> We're adding code for skipping runtime-resume-before-system-suspend, because
>> it is not desirable in general.
>>
>> The rule of thumb is that if you know you need to change the device's settings
>> (eg. because of wakeup being enabled or not) for system suspend and that
>> requires the device to be resumed, resume it.  It can stay suspended
>> otherwise.
> Thanks Rafael.
>
> Vinod, thinking about this some more, I am wondering if it is just
> better to get rid of the suspend/resume callbacks and simply handling
> the state in the runtime suspend/resume callbacks. I think that would be
> safe too, because once the clock has been disabled, then who knows what
> the context state will be.

One caveat here: system suspend may be invoked at any time, so you need 
to ensure that the device is properly suspended when that happens.

I believe you at least need a ->suspend callback for that.

Cheers,
Rafael

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