linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v3 02/18] of/platform: add of_platform

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Date:	Mon, 7 Sep 2015 14:31:06 +0200
From:	Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu.vizoso@...labora.com>
To:	Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org>
Cc:	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@...dotorg.org>,
	Javier Martinez Canillas <javier@....samsung.com>,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@...il.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@...il.com>,
	"devicetree@...r.kernel.org" <devicetree@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@...aro.org>,
	linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 02/18] of/platform: add of_platform_probe

On 11 August 2015 at 11:37, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu.vizoso@...labora.com> wrote:
> On 7 August 2015 at 14:19, Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org> wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 04:11:39PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>>
>>> Walks the OF tree up and finds the closest ancestor that has a platform
>>> device associated with it, probing it if isn't bound to a driver yet.
>>
>>> The above should ensure that the dependency represented by the passed OF
>>> node is available, because probing a platform device should cause its
>>> descendants to be probed as well.
>>
>> This sounds like it's going to break in the case where we have MFDs that
>> represent their functions in DT (not a pattern I'm a fan of but it's a
>> thing people do).  We'll walk back to the platform device for the MFD
>> function, try to probe it and then give up.  Perhaps that's good enough
>> anyway but it's not clear to me why we don't just try every parent we
>> find?
>
> Agreed. In the attempt at probing dependencies before a device is
> probed, I considered that a device's parent is also a dependency and
> that worked well. From what I saw, few devices will defer their probe
> if their parent hasn't been probed yet, assuming that it will have
> probed already. But with simple-mfd and simple-bus that shouldn't be
> relied upon as things will break if their parents defer their probe.
> With async probing enabled this failure scenario becomes more
> probable.

Actually I'm not sure how we could probe the ascendants on demand, as
currently the parent's device lock is taken when probing so trying to
probe a sibling from within a probe callback will cause a deadlock.

AFAICS this is only needed for USB interface devices and this
behaviour could be limited to them, but I don't like much assuming
that no USB device will ever have a dependency on a sibling (though
that probably won't happen ever).

Regards,

Tomeu

>> I'm also not a fan of the fact that the interface here is explicitly
>> saying that we want to probe a platform device, that's an implementation
>> detail that callers shouldn't need to know about.  From the point of
>> view of the callers what they're trying to do is kick any dependencies
>> into being instantiated, the fact that we currently try to accomplish it
>> with platform devices isn't something they care about.
>
> Agreed.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tomeu
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