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Date:	Wed, 9 Sep 2015 10:27:08 -0700
From:	Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
To:	Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com>
Cc:	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
	Tycho Andersen <tycho.andersen@...onical.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>,
	Will Drewry <wad@...omium.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@...allels.com>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge.hallyn@...ntu.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Network Development <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] ebpf: add a seccomp program type

On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Alexei Starovoitov
<alexei.starovoitov@...il.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 09:37:51AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net> wrote:
>> > On 09/09/2015 06:07 PM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 09:50:35AM -0600, Tycho Andersen wrote:
>> >
>> > [...]
>> >>>
>> >>> Thoughts?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Please do not add any per-instruction hacks. None of them are
>> >> necessary. Classic had to do extra ugly checks in seccomp only
>> >> because verifier wasn't flexible enough.
>> >> If you don't want to see any BPF_CALL in seccomp, just have
>> >> empty get_func_proto() callback for BPF_PROG_TYPE_SECCOMP
>> >> and verifier will reject all calls.
>> >> Currently we have only two non-generic instrucitons
>> >> LD_ABS and LD_IND that are avaialable for sockets/TC only,
>> >> because these are legacy instructions and we had to make
>> >> exceptions for them.
>> >
>> > Yep, +1.
>>
>> Hrmpf. This adds to the cognitive load for accepting this patch
>> series. :P Now I have to convince myself that there is no additional
>> exposure to seccomp by using the entire set of eBPF instructions.
>> While I'm pretty sure it'll be fine, I really don't want to risk being
>> wrong and opening a hole here. I will spend some time looking at the
>> new eBPF instructions...
>
> note, as was discussed many times before, there is no pointer leak
> prevention pass yet, so eBPF is root only.
> Once the pass is complete it will prevent passing addresses to
> functions, storing them in maps and returning from the program.

Tycho, are you building new eBPF filters as the root user and then
attaching them later? I was imagining you were going to need this
entirely as non-root.

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook
Chrome OS Security
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