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Date:	Tue, 15 Sep 2015 03:23:58 +0300
From:	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@...temov.name>
To:	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@...belt.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/13] Always expose MAP_UNINITIALIZED to userspace

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 03:50:38PM -0700, Palmer Dabbelt wrote:
> This used to be hidden behind CONFIG_MMAP_ALLOW_UNINITIALIZED, so
> userspace wouldn't actually ever see it be non-zero.  While I could
> have kept hiding it, the man pages seem to indicate that
> MAP_UNINITIALIZED should be visible:
> 
>   mmap(2)
>   MAP_UNINITIALIZED (since Linux 2.6.33)
>     Don't clear anonymous pages.  This flag is intended to improve
>     performance on embedded devices.  This flag is honored only if the
>     kernel was configured with the CONFIG_MMAP_ALLOW_UNINITIALIZED
>     option.  Because of the security implications, that option is
>     normally enabled only on embedded devices (i.e., devices where one
>     has complete control of the contents of user memory).
> 
> and since the only time it shows up in my /usr/include is in this
> header I believe this should have been visible to userspace (as
> non-zero, which wouldn't do anything when or'd into the flags) all
> along.

Are you sure about "wouldn't do anything"?
Suspiciously, 0x4000000 is also (1 << MAP_HUGE_SHIFT). I'm not sure if any
architecture has order-1 huge pages, but still looks like we have conflict
here.

I think it's harmful to expose non-zero MAP_UNINITIALIZED to system which
potentially can handle multiple users. Or non-trivial user space in
general.

Should we leave it at least under '#ifndef CONFIG_MMU'? I don't think it's
possible to have single ABI for MMU and MMU-less systems anyway. And we
can avoid conflict with MAP_HUGE_SHIFT this way.

P.S. MAP_UNINITIALIZED itself looks very broken to me. I probably need dig
mailing list on why it was allowed. 
But that's other topic.

-- 
 Kirill A. Shutemov
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