linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 0/3] x86/paravirt: Fix baremetal paravirt MSR ops

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Message-ID: <CALCETrUhdJXzGr_O2apahU5XGSMdNmRGn1ZtGn4wqgTMA5VjdQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Thu, 17 Sep 2015 08:26:59 -0700
From:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>,
	xen-devel <Xen-devel@...ts.xen.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...ux.intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	X86 ML <x86@...nel.org>, KVM list <kvm@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] x86/paravirt: Fix baremetal paravirt MSR ops

On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 08:17:18AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>
>> > Ah, that would be good news. Andy earlier argued I could not rely on
>> > rdmsr_safe() faulting on unknown MSRs. If practically we can there's
>> > some code I can simplify :-)
>>
>> I was taking about QEMU TCG, not KVM.
>
> Just for my education, TCG is the thing without _any_ hardware assist?

Yes.

> The thing you fear to use because it cannot boot a kernel this side of
> tomorrow etc.. ?

I actually use it on a semi-regular basis.  It appears to boot a
normal kernel correctly and surprisingly quickly.  It's important for
a silly reason.  Asking KVM on an Intel host to emulate an AMD CPU or
vice versa results in a chimera: I get an Opteron that's
"GenuineIntel", which causes Linux to treat it as Intel, which means
it gets the Intel quirks (SYSENTER in long mode, no
X86_BUG_SYSRET_SS_ATTRS, etc) instead of the AMD quirks (SYSCALL in
compat mode, etc).  So, if I want to test compat SYSCALL, I have to
use TCG, which will actually do a decent job of emulating an AMD CPU
for me.

Maybe Paolo can fix QEMU to fail bad MSR accesses for real...

--Andy

-- 
Andy Lutomirski
AMA Capital Management, LLC
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