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Message-ID: <20150917235647.GG8624@ret.masoncoding.com>
Date:	Thu, 17 Sep 2015 19:56:47 -0400
From:	Chris Mason <clm@...com>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
CC:	Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>, Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>,
	Josef Bacik <jbacik@...com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Neil Brown <neilb@...e.de>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fs-writeback: drop wb->list_lock during blk_finish_plug()

On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 04:08:19PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Chris Mason <clm@...com> wrote:
> >
> > Playing around with the plug a little, most of the unplugs are coming
> > from the cond_resched_lock().  Not really sure why we are doing the
> > cond_resched() there, we should be doing it before we retake the lock
> > instead.
> >
> > This patch takes my box (with dirty thresholds at 1.5GB/3GB) from 195K
> > files/sec up to 213K.  Average IO size is the same as 4.3-rc1.
> 
> Ok, so at least for you, part of the problem really ends up being that
> there's a mix of the "synchronous" unplugging (by the actual explicit
> "blk_finish_plug(&plug);") and the writeback that is handed off to
> kblockd_workqueue.
> 
> I'm not seeing why that should be an issue. Sure, there's some CPU
> overhead to context switching, but I don't see that it should be that
> big of a deal.
> 
> I wonder if there is something more serious wrong with the kblockd_workqueue.

I'm driving the box pretty hard, it's right on the line between CPU
bound and IO bound.  So I've got 32 fs_mark processes banging away and
32 CPUs (16 really, with hyperthreading).

They are popping in and out of balance_dirty_pages() so I have high CPU
utilization alternating with high IO wait times.  There no reads at all,
so all of these waits are for buffered writes.

People in balance_dirty_pages are indirectly waiting on the unplug, so
maybe the context switch overhead on a loaded box is enough to explain
it.  We've definitely gotten more than 9% by inlining small synchronous
items in btrfs in the past, but those were more explicitly synchronous.

I know it's painfully hand wavy.  I don't see any other users of the
kblockd workqueues, and the perf profiles don't jump out at me.  I'll
feel better about the patch if Dave confirms any gains.

-chris

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