linux-kernel - RE: [PATCH] [v4] PM / hibernate: Fix hibernation panic caused by inconsistent e820 map

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Date:	Fri, 18 Sep 2015 03:47:53 +0000
From:	"Chen, Yu C" <yu.c.chen@...el.com>
To:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
CC:	"rjw@...ysocki.net" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
	"Brown, Len" <len.brown@...el.com>,
	"linux-pm@...r.kernel.org" <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Zhang, Rui" <rui.zhang@...el.com>,
	"jlee@...e.com" <jlee@...e.com>,
	"joeyli.kernel@...il.com" <joeyli.kernel@...il.com>,
	"yinghai@...nel.org" <yinghai@...nel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] [v4] PM / hibernate: Fix hibernation panic caused by
 inconsistent e820 map

Thanks, Pavel,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-pm-owner@...r.kernel.org [mailto:linux-pm-
> owner@...r.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Pavel Machek
> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 4:44 AM
> To: Chen, Yu C
> Cc: rjw@...ysocki.net; Brown, Len; linux-pm@...r.kernel.org; linux-
> kernel@...r.kernel.org; Zhang, Rui; jlee@...e.com;
> joeyli.kernel@...il.com; yinghai@...nel.org; Ingo Molnar
> Subject: Re: [PATCH] [v4] PM / hibernate: Fix hibernation panic caused by
> inconsistent e820 map
> 
> Yes, that's better.
> 
> But I still don't like the patch.
> 
> 0) BIOS is broken, and this does not completely work around it. Users will still
> see the failed hibernation when the memory that is now unavailable was
> actually used.
> 
Unfortunately , yes :(  the patch is trying to replace the 'panic' with 'failure', because I guess 'failure'
is a little better than a 'panic' ? It is a workaround for inconsistent BIOS. 
Actually, according to ACPI spec 5, page 626, BIOS should not change its memory table
during S4:
" The memory information returned from the system address map 
reporting interfaces should be the same before and after an S4 sleep"


> 1) It allocates bm3 even on systems that don't need the workaround (arm,
> ia32)
> 
 I'll try to solve this.
> 2) If you use hibernation on 32-bit kernel on affected system, you'll still get
> panic.
> 
I think 32 bit kernel will not get panic?  because:
1) If the page to be restored is in low memory, 
     it will be checked by swsusp_page_is_valid, 
     which will check if the page is in the directly-mapped region(pfn_mapped),
     for 32 bit kernel, the pfn_mapped region contains mapping lower than max_low_pfn.
    so accessing  low memory is ok.

2) if the page to be restored is in high memory, it will be accessed by
    kmap_atomic, so accessing high memory is ok.

> 3) I'm not sure I understand the changelog correctly. What happens when
> BIOS reports less memory on hibernation? Will you magically remove
> memory from kernel at runtime? Will /proc/meminfo be invalid after resume?
> Will all the memory management tuning need fixing?
> 
Oh, I did not notice it before. So deleting the logic of 
' info->num_physpages != get_num_physpages()' is not suitable. 
The subset relationship should not be considered in this patch.

> Changelog is really confusing. "failor" is not a english word.
> 
Sorry for my poor English, I'll check it again.

> After this patch applied, the panic will be replaced with the warning:
> 
> ...
> 
> according to your explanation, panic will be replaced with the resume failure,
> not mere warning.
> 
> I believe we have case of "this BIOS problem can not be reasonably worked
> around" here.
> 
Agree, so I guess the current patch is trying to make the problem more acceptable to user,
at least  make user aware of the inconsistent BIOS.

Thanks!


Best Regards,
Yu

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