linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] x86/msr: Carry on after a non-"safe" MSR access fails without !panic_on

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Message-ID: <CALCETrUSEm_QLxGaBdmy3tQn=WnagvzTaYpy+i14sGUeaOUvTQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Mon, 21 Sep 2015 10:43:44 -0700
From:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
To:	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...ux.intel.com>
Cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>,
	xen-devel <Xen-devel@...ts.xen.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	KVM list <kvm@...r.kernel.org>,
	"the arch/x86 maintainers" <x86@...nel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] x86/msr: Carry on after a non-"safe" MSR access
 fails without !panic_on_oops

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...ux.intel.com> wrote:
> On 9/21/2015 9:36 AM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 1:46 AM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Linus, what's your preference?
>>
>>
>> So quite frankly, is there any reason we don't just implement
>> native_read_msr() as just
>>
>>     unsigned long long native_read_msr(unsigned int msr)
>>     {
>>        int err;
>>        unsigned long long val;
>>
>>        val = native_read_msr_safe(msr, &err);
>>        WARN_ON_ONCE(err);
>>        return val;
>>     }
>>
>> Note: no inline, no nothing. Just put it in arch/x86/lib/msr.c, and be
>> done with it. I don't see the downside.
>>
>> How many msr reads are <i>so</i> critical that the function call
>> overhead would matter?
>
>
> if anything qualifies it'd be switch_to() and friends.

And maybe the KVM user return notifier.  Unfortunately, switch_to
might gain another two MSR accesses at some point if we decide to fix
the bugs in there.  Sigh.

>
> note that I'm not entirely happy about the notion of "safe" MSRs.
> They're safe as in "won't fault".
> Reading random MSRs isn't a generic safe operation though, but the name sort
> of gives people
> the impression that it is. Even with _safe variants, you still need to KNOW
> the MSR exists (by means
> of CPUID or similar) unfortunately.
>

I tend to agree.

Anyway, the fully out-of-line approach isn't obviously a bad idea, and
it simplifies the whole mess (we can drop most of the paravirt
patches, too).  I'll give it a try and see what happens.

--Andy
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