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Message-ID: <20150925112617.GA3122@pathway.suse.cz>
Date:	Fri, 25 Sep 2015 13:26:17 +0200
From:	Petr Mladek <pmladek@...e.com>
To:	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@...htriplett.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...e.de>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.cz>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
	live-patching@...r.kernel.org, linux-api@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 07/18] kthread: Allow to cancel kthread work

On Tue 2015-09-22 15:35:13, Tejun Heo wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 03:03:48PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
> >  /**
> > + * try_to_grab_pending_kthread_work - steal kthread work item from worklist,
> > + *	and disable irq
> > + * @work: work item to steal
> > + * @is_dwork: @work is a delayed_work
> > + * @flags: place to store irq state
> > + *
> > + * Try to grab PENDING bit of @work.  This function can handle @work in any
> > + * stable state - idle, on timer or on worklist.
> > + *
> > + * Return:
> > + *  1		if @work was pending and we successfully stole PENDING
> > + *  0		if @work was idle and we claimed PENDING
> > + *  -EAGAIN	if PENDING couldn't be grabbed at the moment, safe to busy-retry
> > + *  -ENOENT	if someone else is canceling @work, this state may persist
> > + *		for arbitrarily long
> > + *
> > + * Note:
> > + * On >= 0 return, the caller owns @work's PENDING bit.  To avoid getting
> > + * interrupted while holding PENDING and @work off queue, irq must be
> > + * disabled on return.  This, combined with delayed_work->timer being
> > + * irqsafe, ensures that we return -EAGAIN for finite short period of time.
> > + *
> > + * On successful return, >= 0, irq is disabled and the caller is
> > + * responsible for releasing it using local_irq_restore(*@...gs).
> > + *
> > + * This function is safe to call from any context including IRQ handler.
> > + */
> 
> Ugh... I think this is way too much for kthread_worker.  Workqueue is
> as complex as it is partly for historical reasons and partly because
> it's used so widely and heavily.  kthread_worker is always guaranteed
> to have a single worker and in most cases maybe several work items.
> There's no reason to bring this level of complexity onto it.
> Providing simliar semantics is fine but it should be possible to do
> this in a lot simpler way if the requirements on space and concurrency
> is this much lower.
> 
> e.g. always embed timer_list in a work item and use per-worker
> spinlock to synchronize access to both the work item and timer and use
> per-work-item mutex to synchronize multiple cancelers.  Let's please
> keep it simple.

I thought about it a lot and I do not see a way how to make it easier
using the locks.

I guess that you are primary interested into the two rather
complicated things:


1) PENDING state plus -EAGAIN/busy loop cycle
---------------------------------------------

IMHO, we want to use the timer because it is an elegant solution.
Then we must release the lock when the timer is running. The lock
must be taken by the timer->function(). And there is a small window
when the timer is not longer pending but timer->function is not running:

CPU0                            CPU1

run_timer_softirq()
  __run_timers()
    detach_expired_timer()
      detach_timer()
	#clear_pending

				try_to_grab_pending_kthread_work()
				  del_timer()
				    # fails because not pending

				  test_and_set_bit(KTHREAD_WORK_PENDING_BIT)
				    # fails because already set

				  if (!list_empty(&work->node))
				    # fails because still not queued

			!!! problematic window !!!

    call_timer_fn()
     queue_kthraed_work()


2) CANCEL state plus custom waitqueue
-------------------------------------

cancel_kthread_work_sync() has to wait for the running work. It might take
quite some time. Therefore we could not block others by a spinlock.
Also others could not wait for the spin lock in a busy wait.


IMHO, the proposed and rather complex solutions are needed in both cases.

Or did I miss a possible trick, please?

Best Regards,
Petr
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