linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v3 4/5] kcmp: add KCMP_FILE_PRIVATE

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Message-ID: <CALCETrWx_yCF7o6ZnbeoDqw-Fxa3GzARX30SZWeg40FMGqR25Q@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Wed, 30 Sep 2015 11:56:25 -0700
From:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
To:	Tycho Andersen <tycho.andersen@...onical.com>
Cc:	Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>,
	Will Drewry <wad@...omium.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@...allels.com>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge.hallyn@...ntu.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Network Development <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/5] kcmp: add KCMP_FILE_PRIVATE_DATA

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Tycho Andersen
<tycho.andersen@...onical.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:47:05AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Tycho Andersen
>> <tycho.andersen@...onical.com> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:25:41AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Tycho Andersen
>> >> <tycho.andersen@...onical.com> wrote:
>> >> > This command allows comparing the underling private data of two fds. This
>> >> > is useful e.g. to find out if a seccomp filter is inherited, since struct
>> >> > seccomp_filter are unique across tasks and are the private_data seccomp
>> >> > fds.
>> >>
>> >> This is very implementation-specific and may have nasty ABI
>> >> consequences far outside seccomp.  Let's do something specific to
>> >> seccomp and/or eBPF.
>> >
>> > We could change the name to a less generic KCMP_SECCOMP_FD or
>> > something, but without some sort of GUID on each struct
>> > seccomp_filter, the implementation would be effectively the same as it
>> > is today. Is that enough, or do we need a GUID?
>> >
>>
>> I don't care about the GUID.  I think we should name it
>> KCMP_SECCOMP_FD and make it only work on seccomp fds.
>
> Ok, I can do that.
>
>> Alternatively, we could figure out why KCMP_FILE doesn't do the trick
>> and consider fixing it.  IMO it's really too bad that struct file is
>> so heavyweight that we can't really just embed one in all kinds of
>> structures.
>
> The problem is that KCMP_FILE compares the file objects themselves,
> instead of the underlying data. If I ask for a seccomp fd for filter 0
> twice, I'll have two different file objects and they won't be equal. I
> suppose we could add some special logic inside KCMP_FILE to compare
> the underlying data in special cases (seccomp, ebpf, others?), but it
> seems cleaner to have a separate command as you described above.
>

What I meant was that maybe we could get the two requests to actually
produce the same struct file.  But that could get very messy
memory-wise.

--Andy
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