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Message-ID: <20151007151519.GG3910@linux.vnet.ibm.com> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 08:15:19 -0700 From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org> Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>, Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@...il.com>, dipankar@...ibm.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, josh@...htriplett.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>, rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>, dhowells@...hat.com, edumazet@...gle.com, dvhart@...ux.intel.com, fweisbec@...il.com, oleg@...hat.com, bobby prani <bobby.prani@...il.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/18] rcu: Move rcu_report_exp_rnp() to allow consolidation On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 01:01:20PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 08:42:05AM +0000, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote: > > ----- On Oct 7, 2015, at 3:51 AM, Peter Zijlstra peterz@...radead.org wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 01:58:50PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > >> On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 10:29:37PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > >> > On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 09:29:21AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > >> > > +static void __maybe_unused rcu_report_exp_rnp(struct rcu_state *rsp, > > >> > > + struct rcu_node *rnp, bool wake) > > >> > > +{ > > >> > > + unsigned long flags; > > >> > > + unsigned long mask; > > >> > > + > > >> > > + raw_spin_lock_irqsave(&rnp->lock, flags); > > >> > > > >> > Normally we require a comment with barriers, explaining the order and > > >> > the pairing etc.. :-) > > >> > > > >> > > + smp_mb__after_unlock_lock(); > > >> > > >> Hmmmm... That is not good. > > >> > > >> Worse yet, I am missing comments on most of the pre-existing barriers > > >> of this form. > > > > > > Yes I noticed.. :/ > > > > > >> The purpose is to enforce the heavy-weight grace-period memory-ordering > > >> guarantees documented in the synchronize_sched() header comment and > > >> elsewhere. > > > > > >> They pair with anything you might use to check for violation > > >> of these guarantees, or, simiarly, any ordering that you might use when > > >> relying on these guarantees. > > > > > > I'm sure you know what that means, but I've no clue ;-) That is, I > > > wouldn't know where to start looking in the RCU implementation to verify > > > the barrier is either needed or sufficient. Unless you mean _everywhere_ > > > :-) > > > > One example is the new membarrier system call. It relies on synchronize_sched() > > to enforce this: > > That again doesn't explain which UNLOCKs with non-matching lock values > it pairs with and what particular ordering is important here. > > I'm fully well aware of what sync_sched() guarantees and how one can use > it, that is not the issue, what I'm saying is that a generic description > of sync_sched() doesn't help in figuring out WTH that barrier is for and > which other code I should also inspect. Unfortunately, the answer is "pretty much all of it". :-( The enforced ordering relies on pretty much every acquisition/release of an rcu_node structure's ->lock and all the dyntick-idle stuff, plus some explicit barriers and a few smp_load_acquire()s and smp_store_release()s. Thanx, Paul -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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