lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <20151007154303.GC24678@thunk.org>
Date:	Wed, 7 Oct 2015 11:43:03 -0400
From:	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org" <linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [REGRESSION] 998ef75ddb and aio-dio-invalidate-failure w/
 data=journal

On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 08:32:16AM +0100, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> And none of *those* requirements change just because "copied" would be
> zero. If you avoid zeroing the buffers and marking them dirty, nothing
> will ever initialize them on disk, andn if the prefault then later
> fails during retry, no later write will happen either. So now
> eventually later, a read() can see stale data from disk.

Shoot.  You're right, we could end up allowing a stale data to be
exposed.  If we knew the caller of write_end() was guaranteed to
retry, we could skip the jbd2_journal_stop() call and keep the handle
open, which would prevent the transaction from closing.  But if the
write gets abandoned, then the transaction would never close, and
things would grind to a halt.

> I do think this is an ext4 bug, and you'll need to do something *like*
> that patch. Maybe Dave's patch is good as-is. It's the "I think you
> need to do more" that I worry about. Not at -rc4 time. Not with a core
> filesystem like ext4. Let's not hurry this too much.

Agreed, I know what to do, and and the change is not something I'd
want to get in -rc4.  I'll target a fix for the next merge window.

    	    	   	       	      	- Ted
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ