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Message-ID: <20151007060529.GA6364@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 08:05:29 +0200 From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org> To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net> Cc: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...mgrid.com>, Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>, "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@...essinduktion.org>, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>, Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>, Linux API <linux-api@...r.kernel.org>, Network Development <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org> Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 1/2] bpf: enable non-root eBPF programs * Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com> wrote: > > On Tue, 2015-10-06 at 10:50 -0700, Alexei Starovoitov wrote: > > > >> was also thinking that we can do it only in paths that actually > >> have multiple protocol layers, since today bpf is mainly used with > >> tcpdump(raw_socket) and new af_packet fanout both have cb cleared > >> on RX, because it just came out of alloc_skb and no layers were called, > >> and on TX we can clear 20 bytes in dev_queue_xmit_nit(). > >> af_unix/netlink also have clean skb. Need to analyze tun and sctp... > >> but it feels overly fragile to save a branch in sk_filter, > >> so planning to go with > >> if(unlikely(prog->cb_access)) memset in sk_filter(). > >> > > > > This will break TCP use of sk_filter(). > > skb->cb[] contains useful data in TCP layer. > > > > > > Since I don't know too much about the networking details: > > 1. Does "skb->cb" *ever* contain anything useful for an unprivileged user? > > 2. Does sbk->cb form a stable ABI? > > Unless both answers are solid yesses, then maybe the right solution is > to just deny access entirely to unprivileged users. So this kind of instrumentation data is not an ABI in a similar fashion as tracing information is not an ABI either. I.e. tracepoints can (and sometimes do) change 'semantics' - in that the interpretation of the implementational details behind that data changes as the implementation changes. That's not something that can ever be an ABI, just like the contents of /proc/kcore or /proc/slabinfo can not be an ABI. Thanks, Ingo -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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