linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support

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Message-ID: <20151008114841-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com>
Date:	Thu, 8 Oct 2015 12:16:19 +0300
From:	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>
To:	Avi Kivity <avi@...lladb.com>
Cc:	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@...hat.com>,
	Vlad Zolotarov <vladz@...udius-systems.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, hjk@...sjkoch.de, corbet@....net,
	bruce.richardson@...el.com, avi@...udius-systems.com,
	gleb@...udius-systems.com, stephen@...workplumber.org,
	alexander.duyck@...il.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support

On Thu, Oct 08, 2015 at 11:46:30AM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/08/2015 10:32 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >On Thu, Oct 08, 2015 at 08:33:45AM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >>It is good practice to defend against root oopsing the kernel, but in some
> >>cases it cannot be achieved.
> >Absolutely. That's one of the issues with these patches. They don't even
> >try where it's absolutely possible.
> >
> 
> Are you referring to blocking the maps of the msix BAR areas?

For example. There are more. I listed some of the issues on the mailing
list, and I might have missed some.  VFIO has code to address all this,
people should share code to avoid duplication, or at least read it
to understand the issues.

> I think there is value in that.  The value is small because a
> corruption is more likely in the dynamic memory responsible for tens
> of millions of DMA operations per second, rather than a static 4K
> area, but it exists.

There are other bugs which will hurt e.g. each time application does not
exit gracefully.

But well, heh :) That's precisely my feeling about the whole "running
userspace drivers without an IOMMU" project. The value is small
since modern hardware has fast IOMMUs, but it exists.

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MST
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