linux-kernel - Re: 4.2: CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL_ALL effectively disabling non-boot CPUs

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Message-ID: <20151012005117.GA15270@lerouge>
Date:	Mon, 12 Oct 2015 02:51:19 +0200
From:	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>
To:	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc:	Meelis Roos <mroos@...ux.ee>,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Subject: Re: 4.2: CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL_ALL effectively disabling non-boot CPUs

On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 12:24:39PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 10:14:25PM +0300, Meelis Roos wrote:
> > Short summary: turning on CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL_ALL seems to disable all 
> > non-boot CPUs for scheduler.
> > 
> > A couple of days ago I noticed that make -j8 on a 4-core i5 is very slow 
> > (with 4.3.0-rc4+git). Looking at top ('1' for per-cpu states), only 
> > first CPU is loaded and 3 other CPUs are 100% idle. This seems to be a 
> > problem on 3 of my desktop machines (different generation Intel: i5-660, 
> > i5-2400, i3-3220). All the computers run custom kernels.
> > 
> > Further investigation showed that CPU affinity was set to 1 (CPU0 only) 
> > for init and all the children. Kernel threads had affinities 1,2,4,8 
> > and f (seems normal).
> > 
> > Even more interesting was the behaviour after setting affinity to f for 
> > all userland processes and then running make -j4. The other cores were 
> > still idle!
> > 
> > Switching back to 4.2.0 with my config, the problem persisted. 4.2.3 as 
> > packaged by Debian worked fine. 4.0.0 and 4.1.0 with my config worked 
> > also fine. systemd and sysvinit behaved the same and no affinity was 
> > configured for systemd.
> > 
> > So did a kernel config bisection between my kernel config and Debian 
> > config and came to CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL_ALL. Debian has it off, I had it 
> > on. Turning that off fixed the scheduling and the system spread the 
> > tasks to all the cores.
> > 
> > I do not remember changing this value for a long time, I set them after 
> > the settings were introduced and used it. So it seems it broken in 4.2.0 
> > but was working in 4.1 but I do not have 4.1 config saved anywhere 
> > (many make oldconfigs since).
> > 
> > Bisection between 4.1 and 4.2 is possible but not easy since the 
> > machines are usually actively used when I am near them.
> 
> This is expected and intended behavior.  The whole point of
> CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL_ALL is to keep everything off of the non-boot CPUs
> that is not explicitly placed there.  Without CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL_ALL,
> you can use the nohz_full boot parameter to select exactly which
> CPUs are to behave this way.

I'm preparing a revert of this. Many people are complaining about this.
Most of the time it's about accidentally enbling NO_HZ_FULL_ALL and I could
fix this with a warning to avoid time spent by users to chase a non-bug. But Mike
says that CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL_ALL makes the machine unusable for anything else
than isolation workloads whereas some "normal" workload may be needed as well
by the machine before or after an isolation task.
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