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Message-ID: <20151015080610.GA25536@redhat.com>
Date:	Thu, 15 Oct 2015 04:06:10 -0400
From:	Mike Snitzer <snitzer@...hat.com>
To:	Ming Lei <tom.leiming@...il.com>
Cc:	Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@...hat.com>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>,
	Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@...il.com>,
	dm-devel@...hat.com,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Alasdair G. Kergon" <agk@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] block: flush queued bios when the process blocks

On Wed, Oct 14 2015 at 11:27pm -0400,
Ming Lei <tom.leiming@...il.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 3:52 AM, Mike Snitzer <snitzer@...hat.com> wrote:
> >
> > Turns out that this change:
> > http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/snitzer/linux.git/commit/?h=wip&id=2639638c77768a86216be456c2764e32a2bcd841
> >
> > needed to be reverted with:
> > http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/snitzer/linux.git/commit/?h=wip&id=ad3ccd760da7c05b90775372f9b39dc2964086fe
> >
> > Because nested plugs caused generic_make_request()'s onstack bio_list to
> > go out of scope (blk_finish_plug() wouldn't actually flush the list
> > within generic_make_request because XFS already added an outermost
> > plug).
> 
> Looks you should have defined bio_list in plug as
> 
>                'struct bio_list bio_list'
> 
> instead of one pointer.

I realized that and fixed it (see commit ad3ccd760da7c05b90 referenced
above that does exactly that).  That wasn't the problem.

> >
> > But even after fixing that I then hit issues with these changes now
> > resulting in imperfect 'in_generic_make_request' accounting that happens
> > lazily once the outermost plug completes blk_finish_plug.  manifested as
> > dm-bufio.c:dm_bufio_prefetch's BUG_ON(dm_bufio_in_request()); hitting.
> 
> Looks this problem should be related with above 'bio_list' definition too.

No, as I explained it was due to the nested plug:

> >
> > Basically using the blk-core's onstack plugging isn't workable for
> > fixing this deadlock and we're back to having to seriously consider
> > this (with its additional hook in the scheduler)

To elaborate, for the code in DM (and other subsystems like bcache) that
rely on accurate accounting of whether we're actively _in_
generic_make_request: using plug to store/manage the bio_list isn't
workable because nested plugs change the lifetime of when the bio_list
is processed (as I implemented it -- which was to respect nested plugs).
I could've forced the issue by making the bio_list get processed
regardless of nesting but that would've made the onstack plugging much
more convoluted (duality between nested vs not just for bio_list's
benefit and for what gain?  Simply to avoid an extra conditional
immediately in the scheduler?  That conditional was still added anyway
but just as part of blk_needs_flush_plug so in the end there wasn't any
benefit!).

Hopefully my middle-of-the-night reply is coherent and helped to clarify
my position that (ab)using blk_plug for the bio_list management is
_really_ awkward. ;)

Thanks,
Mike
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