linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order

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Date:	Sat, 17 Oct 2015 21:01:31 +0200
From:	Alexander Holler <holler@...oftware.de>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Russell King <linux@....linux.org.uk>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@...aro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order

Am 17.10.2015 um 20:52 schrieb Linus Torvalds:
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Alexander Holler <holler@...oftware.de> wrote:
>>
>> I'm making dependencies the only ordering for annotated initcalls.
>
> Yeah, and quite frankly, that just means that I'm not going to merge it.
>
> We do not do "flag-day" things. We've done them in the past, and it
> has always been a major and unacceptable pain.

That isn't a flag day thing. It's a config option everyone can turn on 
and off whenever he wants.

>
> And if the dependency ordering is "outside" of the traditional
> link-time ordering, then it is by definition a flag-day event. Every
> time you add a dependency to even just *one* driver, it magically
> changes ordering wrt all the other drivers, because now it's in a
> different ordering domain.
>
> So please reconsider. Or stop cc'ing me. Because "flag day" changes
> really are not acceptable.

I'm choosing the second option. I will answer further mails on that 
topic, but will remove you from cc. Besides that I consider these 
patches as a total failure and will not post any further version.

Alexander Holler
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