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Message-ID: <20151021185735.GB2508@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Date:	Wed, 21 Oct 2015 20:57:35 +0200
From:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>
Cc:	Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86, perf: Use INST_RETIRED.PREC_DIST for cycles:pp on
 Skylake

On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 06:55:42PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 06:52:52PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 08:26:08AM -0700, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > So it turns out that UOPS_RETIRED.ALL+pebs only works by accident
> > > on Skylake. It's not in the specification.
> > 
> > Accident or not, it works and you've tested it. Might as well keep it.
> > Specs can be updated.
> 
> No, it's better not to use it.

This is really rather unfortunate; what is the failure mode?

> > Also, even with the SNB 'hickup' they still haven't got the memo that
> > cycles is important for PEBS ?
> 
> INST_RETIRED.PREC_DIST is a far better cycles than UOPS_RETIRED.ALL
> (see my earlier example)

If you only want the one counter, yes.

And since you made me look at the SDM; it looks like our skl pebs table
isn't anything like the table there. Also, do the events BR_INST_RETIRED
have a composable umask? That is, .event=0xc4, .umask=41 is valid and
would be 'conditional far branches'.

The same would be true for the HSW/BDW table I suppose, the memops
retired stuff looks composable but we currently do not allow that.


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