linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 5/5] block: enable dax for raw block devices

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Message-ID: <20151026072057.GA11450@quack.suse.cz>
Date:	Mon, 26 Oct 2015 08:20:57 +0100
From:	Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>
To:	Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>
Cc:	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>, Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"jmoyer@...hat.com" <jmoyer@...hat.com>, "hch@....de" <hch@....de>,
	"axboe@...com" <axboe@...com>,
	"akpm@...ux-foundation.org" <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-nvdimm@...ts.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@...ts.01.org>,
	"willy@...ux.intel.com" <willy@...ux.intel.com>,
	"ross.zwisler@...ux.intel.com" <ross.zwisler@...ux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] block: enable dax for raw block devices

On Mon 26-10-15 17:23:19, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:48:06AM +0900, Dan Williams wrote:
> > 2/ Even if we get a new flag that lets the kernel know the app
> > understands DAX mappings, we shouldn't leave fsync broken.  Can we
> > instead get by with a simple / big hammer solution?  I.e.
> 
> Because we don't physically have to write back data the problem is
> both simpler and more complex. The simplest solution is for the
> underlying block device to implement blkdev_issue_flush() correctly.
> 
> i.e. if blkdev_issue_flush() behaves according to it's required
> semantics - that all volatile cached data is flushed to stable
> storage - then fsync-on-DAX will work appropriately. As it is, this is
> needed for journal based filesystems to work correctly, as they are
> assuming that their journal writes are being treated correctly as
> REQ_FLUSH | REQ_FUA to ensure correct data/metadata/journal
> ordering is maintained....
> 
> So, to begin with, this problem needs to be solved at the block
> device level. That's the simple, brute-force, big hammer solution to
> the problem, and it requires no changes at the filesystem level at
> all.

Completely agreed. Just make sure REQ_FLUSH, REQ_FUA works correctly for
pmem and fsync(2) / sync(2) issues go away. Fs freezing stuff is a
different story, that will likely need some coordination from the
filesystem layer (although with some luck we could keep it hidden in
fs/super.c and fs/block_dev.c). I can have a look at that once ext4 dax
support works unless someone beats me to it...

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@...e.com>
SUSE Labs, CR
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