linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH tip/locking/core v4 1/6] powerpc: atomic: Make *xchg and *cmpxchg a full barrier

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Message-ID: <20151026085810.GC13641@fixme-laptop.cn.ibm.com>
Date:	Mon, 26 Oct 2015 16:58:10 +0800
From:	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@...il.com>
To:	Paul Mackerras <paulus@...abs.org>
Cc:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@...ts.ozlabs.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@...erman.id.au>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>,
	Waiman Long <waiman.long@...com>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@...olabs.net>, stable@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/locking/core v4 1/6] powerpc: atomic: Make *xchg and
 *cmpxchg a full barrier

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 02:20:21PM +1100, Paul Mackerras wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 10:18:33AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 02:28:35PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > I am not seeing a sync there, but I really have to defer to the
> > > maintainers on this one.  I could easily have missed one.
> > 
> > So x86 implies a full barrier for everything that changes the CPL; and
> > some form of implied ordering seems a must if you change the privilege
> > level unless you tag every single load/store with the priv level at that
> > time, which seems the more expensive option.
> > 
> > So I suspect the typical implementation will flush all load/stores,
> > change the effective priv level and continue.
> > 
> > This can of course be implemented at a pure per CPU ordering (RCpc),
> > which would be in line with the rest of Power, in which case you do
> > indeed need an explicit sync to make it visible to other CPUs.
> 
> Right - interrupts and returns from interrupt are context
> synchronizing operations, which means they wait until all outstanding
> instructions have got to the point where they have reported any
> exceptions they're going to report, which means in turn that loads and
> stores have completed address translation.  But all of that doesn't
> imply anything about the visibility of the loads and stores.
> 
> There is a full barrier in the context switch path, but not in the
> system call entry/exit path.
> 

Thank you, Paul. That's much clear now ;-)

Regards,
Boqun

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