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Message-ID: <20151027184020.GB3201@worktop.amr.corp.intel.com>
Date:	Tue, 27 Oct 2015 19:40:20 +0100
From:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:	Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>
Cc:	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Q: schedule() and implied barriers on arm64

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 04:19:48PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> ... and the 'normal' code will have a control hazard somewhere, followed
> by the implicit ISB in exception return, so there's a barrier of sorts
> there too.

Which exception return?

> The problem is that people say "full barrier" without defining what it
> really means, and we end up going round the houses on things like
> transitivity (which ctrl + isb doesn't always give you).

I pretty much meant smp_mb() here :-)
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