linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 0/3] PM, vfs: use filesystem freezing instead of kthread freezer

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Message-ID: <2254911.sCQ2smOA47@vostro.rjw.lan>
Date:	Tue, 03 Nov 2015 05:06:01 +0100
From:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>
To:	Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>
Cc:	Jiri Kosina <jikos@...nel.org>,
	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>, Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-pm@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] PM, vfs: use filesystem freezing instead of kthread freezer

On Tuesday, November 03, 2015 11:10:53 AM Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 03:43:07AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > I guess it may also helps to address the case when a device is removed from a
> > suspended system, written to on another system in the meantime and inserted
> > back into the (still suspended) original system which then is resumed.  Today
> > this is an almost guaranteed data corruption scenario, but if the filesystem in
> > question is properly frozen during suspend, the driver should be able to detect
> > superblock changes during unfreeze.
> 
> Never going to work. There is no guarantee that a write to a
> filesystem by a third party device is going to change the superblock
> (or any metadata in the rest of the filesystem) in any detectable
> way.  Hence freezing filesystems will not prevent Bad Things
> Happening if you do this while your system is suspended.

OK, thanks for the clarification.

Cheers,
Rafael

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