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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2015 14:13:08 +0100
From: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@...hat.com>
To: James Bottomley <jbottomley@...n.com>
Cc: "ulf.hansson\@linaro.org" <ulf.hansson@...aro.org>,
"linux\@rasmusvillemoes.dk" <linux@...musvillemoes.dk>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] lib/string_helpers: change blk_size to u32 for string_get_size() interface
James Bottomley <jbottomley@...n.com> writes:
> On Mon, 2015-11-02 at 16:58 +0100, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
>> James Bottomley <jbottomley@...n.com> writes:
>>
>> > On Fri, 2015-10-30 at 11:46 +0100, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
>> >> James Bottomley <jbottomley@...n.com> writes:
>> >>
>> >> > On Thu, 2015-10-29 at 17:30 +0100, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
>> >> >> string_get_size() can't really handle huge block sizes, especially
>> >> >> blk_size > U32_MAX but string_get_size() interface states the opposite.
>> >> >> Change blk_size from u64 to u32 to reflect the reality.
>> >> >
>> >> > What is the actual evidence for this? The calculation is designed to be
>> >> > a symmetric 128 bit multiply. When I wrote and tested it, it worked
>> >> > fine for huge block sizes.
>> >>
>> >> We have 'u32 remainder' and then we do:
>> >>
>> >> exp = divisor[units] / (u32)blk_size;
>> >> ...
>> >> remainder = do_div(size, divisor[units]);
>> >> remainder *= blk_size;
>> >>
>> >> I'm pretty sure it will overflow for some inputs.
>> >
>> > It shouldn't; the full code snippet does this:
>> >
>> > while (blk_size >= divisor[units]) {
>> > remainder = do_div(blk_size, divisor[units]);
>> > i++;
>> > }
>> >
>> > exp = divisor[units] / (u32)blk_size;
>> >
>> > So by the time it reaches the statement you complain about, blk_size is
>> > already less than or equal to the divisor (which is 1000 or 1024) so
>> > truncating to 32 bits is always correct.
>> >
>>
>> I overlooked, sorry!
>>
>> > I'm sort of getting the impression you don't quite understand the
>> > mathematics: i is the logarithm to the base divisor[units]. We reduce
>> > both operands to exponents of the logarithm base (adding the two bases
>> > together in i), which means they are by definition in a range between
>> > zero and the base and then multiply the remaining exponents correcting
>> > the result for a base overflow (so the result is always a correct
>> > exponent and i is the logarithm to the base). It's actually simply
>> > Napier's algorithm.
>> >
>> > The reason we're getting the up to 2.5% rounding errors you complain
>> > about is because at each logarithm until the last one, we throw away the
>> > remainder (it's legitimate because it's always 1000x smaller than the
>> > exponent), but in the case of a large remainder it provides a small
>> > correction to the final operation which we don't account for. If you
>> > want to make a true correction, you save the penultimate residue in each
>> > case, multiply each by the *other* exponent add them together, divide by
>> > the base and increment the final result by the remainder.
>>
>> My assumption was that we don't really need to support blk_sizes >
>> U32_MAX and we can simplify string_get_size() instead of adding
>> additional complexity. Apparently, the assumption was wrong.
>>
>> >
>> > However, for 2.5% the physicist in me says the above is way overkill.
>> >
>>
>> It is getting was over 2.5% if blk_size is not a power of 2. While it is
>> probably never the case for block subsystem the function is in lib and
>> pretends to be general-enough. I'll try to make proper correction and
>> let's see if it's worth the effort.
>
> OK, this is the full calculation. It also includes an arithmetic
> rounding to the final figure print. I suppose it's not that much more
> complexity than the original, and it does make the algorithm easier to
> understand.
>
> We could do with running the comments by some other non-mathematician,
> now I've explained it in detail to you two, to see if they actually give
> an understanding of the algorithm.
Thanks, to me they look great! One nitpick below ...
>
> James
>
> ---
>
> diff --git a/lib/string_helpers.c b/lib/string_helpers.c
> index 5939f63..1ec7e77a 100644
> --- a/lib/string_helpers.c
> +++ b/lib/string_helpers.c
> @@ -44,7 +44,7 @@ void string_get_size(u64 size, u64 blk_size, const enum string_size_units units,
> [STRING_UNITS_2] = 1024,
> };
> int i, j;
> - u32 remainder = 0, sf_cap, exp;
> + u32 remainder = 0, sf_cap, r1 = 0, r2 = 0, round;
> char tmp[8];
> const char *unit;
>
> @@ -53,27 +53,46 @@ void string_get_size(u64 size, u64 blk_size, const enum string_size_units units,
> if (!size)
> goto out;
>
> + /* This is napier's algorithm. Reduce the original block size to
> + *
> + * co * divisor[units]^i
> + *
> + * where co = blk_size + r1/divisor[units];
> + *
> + * and the same for size. We simply add to the exponent i, because
> + * the final calculation we're looking for is
> + *
> + * (co1 * co2) * divisor[units]^i
> + */
> +
> +
> while (blk_size >= divisor[units]) {
> - remainder = do_div(blk_size, divisor[units]);
> + r1 = do_div(blk_size, divisor[units]);
> i++;
> }
>
> - exp = divisor[units] / (u32)blk_size;
> - /*
> - * size must be strictly greater than exp here to ensure that remainder
> - * is greater than divisor[units] coming out of the if below.
> - */
> - if (size > exp) {
> - remainder = do_div(size, divisor[units]);
> - remainder *= blk_size;
> + while (size >= divisor[units]) {
> + r2 = do_div(size, divisor[units]);
> i++;
> - } else {
> - remainder *= size;
> }
>
> - size *= blk_size;
> - size += remainder / divisor[units];
> - remainder %= divisor[units];
> + /* here's the magic. co1 * co2 may be > divisor[i], so correct for
> + * that in the exponent and make sure that the additional corrections
> + * from the remainders is added in.
> + *
> + * co1 *co2 = (blk_size + r1/divisor[units])*(size + r2/divisor[units])
> + *
> + * therefore
> + *
> + * co1*co2*divisor[units] = blk_size*size*divisor[units] +
> + * r1*size + r2*size + r1*r2/divisor[units]
> + *
> + * drop the last term because it's too small and perform the
> + * calculation cleverly by decremeting i to be automatically dealing
> + * with everything multiplied by divisor[units] */
> +
> + --i;
> + size = size * blk_size * divisor[units] + r1 * size + r2 *
> blk_size;
The last term is actually not that small. Here is an example:
size = 8192 blk_size = 1024
'As is' the algorithm gives us '8.38 MB', and if we add "+ r1 * r1 /
divisor[units]" we get '8.39 MB' (the correct answer is 8192 * 1024 =
8388608 which is 8.39).
Both r1 and r2 are < divisor[units] here so r1 * r2 won't overflow u32,
I suggest we add this term.
>
> while (size >= divisor[units]) {
> remainder = do_div(size, divisor[units]);
> @@ -81,8 +100,15 @@ void string_get_size(u64 size, u64 blk_size, const enum string_size_units units,
> }
>
> sf_cap = size;
> - for (j = 0; sf_cap*10 < 1000; j++)
> + round = 500;
> + for (j = 0; sf_cap*10 < 1000; j++) {
> sf_cap *= 10;
> + round /= 10;
> + }
> +
> + /* add a 5 to the digit below what will be printed to ensure
> + * an arithmetical round up */
> + remainder += round;
>
> if (j) {
> remainder *= 1000;
Can I post this solution with your Suggested-by or do you plan to do it
yourself?
Thanks,
--
Vitaly
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