linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH 3/3] sched: introduce synchronized idle injection

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Message-ID: <20151105100922.GA3604@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Date:	Thu, 5 Nov 2015 11:09:22 +0100
From:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:	Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@...ux.intel.com>
Cc:	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...ux.intel.com>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@...gle.com>, Len Brown <len.brown@...el.com>,
	Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@...ux.intel.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@...ux.intel.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi.kleen@...el.com>,
	Rafael Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/3] sched: introduce synchronized idle injection

On Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 08:45:01AM -0800, Jacob Pan wrote:
> Fair enough, I will give that a try, I guess it would be costly
> and hard to scale if we were to dequeue/enqueue every se for every
> period of injection plus locking. Let me get some data first.

Yeah, don't go dequeue/enqueue everything, the regular throttle code
doesn't do that either.

Throttling the root is more interesting though, becuase you can simply
dequeue the child group representative, whereas you cannot dequeue the
root (for being the root means there is no parent to dequeue from).

> I understand we don't want to sacrifice the hot patch for some code
> almost 'never' run. But I also have follow up plan to use this code for
> consolidating/synchronizing idle during balanced semi-active workload.
> In that case, it may run more often. e.g.
> 
> Before:
> CPU0 ______||| ||  |___________| || || |_____
> CPU1 _________||| ||  |_______| || |_______
> 
> After:
> 
> CPU0 ______||| ||  |___________| || || |_____
> CPU1 ______||| ||  |___________| || |_______
> 
> The goal is to have overlapping idle time if the load is already
> balanced. The energy saving can be significant.

I can see such a scheme having a fairly big impact on latency, esp. with
forced idleness such as this. That's not going to be popular for many
workloads.
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