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Date:	Mon, 9 Nov 2015 09:15:45 +0100
From:	Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@...il.com>
To:	Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
Cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@...il.com>,
	Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@...ndz.org>,
	Havoc Pennington <havoc.pennington@...il.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Tom Gundersen <teg@...m.no>, Daniel Mack <daniel@...que.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
	Lennart Poettering <lennart@...ttering.net>,
	"systemd-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org" 
	<systemd-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: kdbus refactoring?

On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 12:30 AM, Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 08, 2015 at 10:39:43PM +0100, Richard Weinberger wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 10:35 PM, Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org> wrote:
>> > On Sun, Nov 08, 2015 at 10:06:31PM +0100, Richard Weinberger wrote:
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> after reading on the removal of kdbus from Rawhide[1] I've searched
>> >> the mailinglist archives for more details but didn't find anything.
>> >> So, what are your plans?
>> >>
>> >> [1] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/kernel/2015-October/006011.html
>> >
>> > As that link said, based on the result of the code being in Rawhide, it
>> > is now being reworked / redesigned.  The result will be posted for
>> > review "when it's ready".
>>
>> If you rework/redesign something you have to know what you want to change.
>> That's why I was asking for the plan...
>
> Since when do people post "plans" or "design documents" on lkml without
> real code?  Again, code will be posted when it's ready, like any other
> kernel submission.

Nobody asked for a design document.
And yes, people often say what they do or want to do.
Anyway, heise.de has details from the systemd.conf:
http://www.heise.de/open/meldung/Linux-Kdbus-soll-universeller-werden-Videos-von-Systemd-Konferenz-2910910.html

According to them the plan is making kdbus more universal and less
dbus specific.
Which sounds great.

-- 
Thanks,
//richard
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