linux-kernel - Re: kdbus refactoring?

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Message-ID: <56405B3F.9060508@nod.at>
Date:	Mon, 9 Nov 2015 09:37:19 +0100
From:	Richard Weinberger <richard@....at>
To:	David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@...il.com>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@...htriplett.org>
Cc:	Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@...il.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@...ndz.org>,
	Havoc Pennington <havoc.pennington@...il.com>
Subject: Re: kdbus refactoring?

Am 09.11.2015 um 09:34 schrieb David Herrmann:
> Hi
> 
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 1:53 AM, Josh Triplett <josh@...htriplett.org> wrote:
>> Quoting Documentation/development-process/1.Intro:
> [...]
>>> Years of experience with the kernel development community have taught a
>>> clear lesson: kernel code which is designed and developed behind closed
>>> doors invariably has problems which are only revealed when the code is
>>> released into the community.  Sometimes these problems are severe,
>>> requiring months or years of effort before the code can be brought up to
>>> the kernel community's standards.
> [...]
>> And I've seen you specifically recommend having such conversations early
>> and often.
> 
> I think comparing kdbus to "behind closed doors" development models is
> unfair. We chose to center our development around DBus, not the
> kernel. Anybody who is interested in kdbus discussions could have
> easily joined the DBus and systemd communication channels (and *many*
> people did). I see little reason in cross-posting everything to LKML,
> especially given that our communication is rarely mail-based.

I agree, "behind the doors" is not true. But a mailinglist with achieves
would be nice.
IIRC last time I've asked you said that all discussion happened privately
or on IRC. Which is okay but not that transparent.

Thanks,
//richard
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