linux-kernel - Re: kdbus refactoring?

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Message-ID: <yw1xlha75cne.fsf@unicorn.mansr.com>
Date:	Mon, 09 Nov 2015 17:02:45 +0000
From:	Måns Rullgård <mans@...sr.com>
To:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
Cc:	Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@...ndz.org>,
	"systemd-devel\@lists.freedesktop.org" 
	<systemd-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	Havoc Pennington <havoc.pennington@...il.com>
Subject: Re: kdbus refactoring?

Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net> writes:

> On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org> wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 08, 2015 at 10:39:43PM +0100, Richard Weinberger wrote:
>>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 10:35 PM, Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>> > On Sun, Nov 08, 2015 at 10:06:31PM +0100, Richard Weinberger wrote:
>>> >> Hi all,
>>> >>
>>> >> after reading on the removal of kdbus from Rawhide[1] I've searched
>>> >> the mailinglist archives for more details but didn't find anything.
>>> >> So, what are your plans?
>>> >>
>>> >> [1] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/kernel/2015-October/006011.html
>>> >
>>> > As that link said, based on the result of the code being in Rawhide, it
>>> > is now being reworked / redesigned.  The result will be posted for
>>> > review "when it's ready".
>>>
>>> If you rework/redesign something you have to know what you want to change.
>>> That's why I was asking for the plan...
>>
>> Since when do people post "plans" or "design documents" on lkml without
>> real code?  Again, code will be posted when it's ready, like any other
>> kernel submission.
>
> I ask for feedback on ideas and designs on a fairly regular basis.  I
> even frequently get valuable feedback :)
>
> I would like to think that the kernel community would have something
> of value to add to the process of designing and implementing a major
> new IPC mechanism.

The "trust us, we'll show it when it's ready" attitude reminds me of the
controversial TPP and TTIP negotiations.

-- 
Måns Rullgård
mans@...sr.com
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