linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 4/4] locking: Introduce smp_cond

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Message-ID: <20151112152042.GC3972@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date:	Thu, 12 Nov 2015 07:20:42 -0800
From:	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>, Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@...il.com>,
	mingo@...nel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, corbet@....net,
	mhocko@...nel.org, dhowells@...hat.com,
	torvalds@...ux-foundation.org, will.deacon@....com,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@...erman.id.au>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] locking: Introduce smp_cond_acquire()

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 04:08:22PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 07:01:49AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 03:50:13PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 06:40:04AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > I cannot resist suggesting that any lock that interacts with
> > > > spin_unlock_wait() must have all relevant acquisitions followed by
> > > > smp_mb__after_unlock_lock().
> > > 
> > > Ha! that would certainly help here. But it would mean that argh64v8 also
> > > needs to define that, even though that is already RCsc.
> > 
> > Maybe.  It could also be that arm64 avoids the need somehow, for example
> > via their RCsc behavior.  Their memory model is similar to PPC, but not
> > exactly the same.
> > 
> > Will?
> 
> So when I spoke to Will earlier today, we agreed that LDAXR+STXR is
> susceptible to the same problem. The STXR will allow loads to pass up
> over that store.
> 
> On v8.1, which is using LDADDA, this is not an issue, for as the ACQUIRE
> is part of the LOAD, the Read-Modify-Write is indivisible as a whole,
> and therefore a subsequent load has nothing to pass over.

So one approach required for one level of hardware and another for the
next level.  I can relate to that all too well...  :-/

							Thanx, Paul

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