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Message-Id: <1447943873.2240617.444348369.7F817E6C@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Date:	Thu, 19 Nov 2015 09:37:53 -0500
From:	Colin Walters <walters@...bum.org>
To:	Richard Weinberger <richard@....at>,
	James Morris <jmorris@...ei.org>
Cc:	Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@...onical.com>,
	Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@...il.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	linux-bcache@...r.kernel.org,
	"device-mapper development" <dm-devel@...hat.com>,
	linux-raid@...r.kernel.org, linux-mtd@...ts.infradead.org,
	"linux-fsdevel" <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
	LSM <linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org>,
	selinux@...ho.nsa.gov, Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@...onical.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@....edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] User namespace mount updates

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015, at 02:53 AM, Richard Weinberger wrote:

> Erm, I don't want this in the kernel. That's why I've proposed the lklfuse approach.

I already said this before but just to repeat, since I'm confused:

How would "lklfuse" be different from http://libguestfs.org/
which we at Red Hat (and a number of other organizations)
use quite widely now for build systems, debugging etc.

In the end it's just running the kernel in KVM with a custom protocol,
with support for non-filesystem things like "install a bootloader",
and it already supports FUSE.

I'm pretty firmly with Al here - the attack surface increase here
is too great, and we'd likely turn this off if it even did make it
into the kernel.
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