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Date:	Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:24:01 +0100
From:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>
Cc:	mingo@...nel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	yuyang.du@...el.com, Morten.Rasmussen@....com,
	linaro-kernel@...ts.linaro.org, dietmar.eggemann@....com,
	pjt@...gle.com, bsegall@...gle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: update scale invariance of pelt

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 02:49:30PM +0100, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> Instead of scaling the complete value of PELT algo, we should only scale
> the running time by the current capacity of the CPU. It seems more correct
> to only scale the running time because the non running time of a task
> (sleeping or waiting for a runqueue) is the same whatever the current freq
> and the compute capacity of the CPU.

So I'm leaning towards liking this; however with your previous example
of 3 cpus and 7 tasks, where CPU0-1 are 'little' and of half the
capacity as the 'big' CPU2, with 2 tasks on CPU0-1 each and 3 tasks on
CPU2.

This would result, for CPU0, in a load of 100% wait time + 100% runtime,
scaling the runtime 50% will get you a total load of 150%.

For CPU2 we get 100% runtime and 200% wait time, no scaling, for a total
load of 300%.

So the CPU0-1 cluster has a 300% load and the CPU2 'cluster' has a 300%
load, even though the actual load is not actually equal, CPUs0-1
combined have the same capacity as CPU2, so it should be 4-4 tasks for
an equal balance.


So I'm not sure the claim of comparable between CPUs stands. Still it is
an interesting idea and I will consider it more.
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