linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2 5/7] dmaengine: dw: platform: power on device on shutdown

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Message-ID: <1448561479.15393.95.camel@intel.com>
Date:	Thu, 26 Nov 2015 18:11:09 +0000
From:	"Shevchenko, Andriy" <andriy.shevchenko@...el.com>
To:	"Koul, Vinod" <vinod.koul@...el.com>
CC:	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"tglx@...utronix.de" <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	"rjw@...ysocki.net" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
	"dmaengine@...r.kernel.org" <dmaengine@...r.kernel.org>,
	"mika.westerberg@...ux.intel.com" <mika.westerberg@...ux.intel.com>,
	"jarkko.nikula@...ux.intel.com" <jarkko.nikula@...ux.intel.com>,
	"gregkh@...uxfoundation.org" <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	"linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org" <linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 5/7] dmaengine: dw: platform: power on device on
 shutdown

On Thu, 2015-11-26 at 19:58 +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> On Thu, 2015-11-26 at 23:11 +0530, Vinod Koul wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 07:24:48PM +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2015-11-26 at 22:31 +0530, Vinod Koul wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 05:19:11PM +0200, Andy Shevchenko
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > We have to call dw_dma_disable() to stop any ongoing
> > > > > transfer.
> > > > 
> > > > Ok
> > > > 
> > > > > On some platforms we can't do that since DMA device is
> > > > > powered
> > > > > off.
> > > > 
> > > > Umm, you said we have ongoing transfer which means DMA should
> > > > be
> > > > on..!!
> > > 
> > > Yes, that's true for HSW/BDW and non-affected BYT/CHT.
> > 
> > Can you please explain even when DMA is in use how can device be
> > powered
> > off? That does not sound right to me. 
> 
> It can't, but the problem is we can't distinguish that in this
> routine!
> We simple do *not* know the actual power state of DMA.
> 
> These calls *ensures* that DMA is powered on. Yes, the call to
> dw_dma_off() when it used to be powered off sounds silly, I agree,
> though I see no upstreamable (non-hackish) solution for that.
> 
> Previously I proposed to remove .shutdown hook completely, you were
> objecting.

And second approach with PMC involved was also rejected by you since it
was too hackish, which I completely agree with.

> 
> > Is this on GP DMA on BYT/CHT or
> > something else?
> 
> Correct. Affected platforms are BYT-T and some or all of BSW/CHT
> depending on firmware in use.
> 
> >  
> > > Like I mentioned here is no possibility to know which platform we
> > > run
> > > on.
> > > 
> > > Would you like to test this on a real device? We can provide you
> > > a
> > > login.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Moreover we have no
> > > > > possibility at that point to check if the platform is
> > > > > affected
> > > > > or
> > > > > not. That's
> > > > > why we call pm_runtime_get_sync() / pm_runtime_put()
> > > > > unconditionally. On the
> > > > > other hand we can't use pm_runtime_suspended() because
> > > > > runtime
> > > > > PM
> > > > > framework is
> > > > > not fully used by the driver.
> > > > 
> > > > Shouldn't that be fixed?
> > > 
> > > Do you have any solution how?
> > > 
> > > Rough approach is to turn on it on channel allocation and turn
> > > off
> > > on
> > > freeing resources. The obvious downside of this solution is power
> > > consumption of idling device.
> > 
> > But in that case, the clients should not hold ref of dma chan when
> > idle and
> > allocate only when required which is a resonable expectation
> 
> There is not the case for few drivers. At least for us it's spi-
> pxa2xx
> one. It requires channels on its ->probe() stage. Jarkko is Cc'ed
> here,
> you may ask him as he is our maintainer for the SPI.
> 

-- 
Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@...el.com>
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