linux-kernel - Re: use-after-free in sctp_do

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Message-ID: <5661C3B8.2030902@akamai.com>
Date:	Fri, 4 Dec 2015 11:47:52 -0500
From:	Jason Baron <jbaron@...mai.com>
To:	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@...gle.com>, Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com>
Cc:	Aaron Conole <aconole@...hat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
	syzkaller <syzkaller@...glegroups.com>,
	Vladislav Yasevich <vyasevich@...il.com>,
	linux-sctp@...r.kernel.org, netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	Kostya Serebryany <kcc@...gle.com>,
	Alexander Potapenko <glider@...gle.com>,
	Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@...cle.com>
Subject: Re: use-after-free in sctp_do_sm

On 12/04/2015 11:12 AM, Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:51 PM, Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com> wrote:
>> (adding lkml as this is likely better discussed there)
>>
>> On Thu, 2015-12-03 at 15:42 -0500, Jason Baron wrote:
>>> On 12/03/2015 03:24 PM, Joe Perches wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 2015-12-03 at 15:10 -0500, Jason Baron wrote:
>>>>> On 12/03/2015 03:03 PM, Joe Perches wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 2015-12-03 at 14:32 -0500, Jason Baron wrote:
>>>>>>> On 12/03/2015 01:52 PM, Aaron Conole wrote:
>>>>>>>> I think that as a minimum, the following patch should be evaluted,
>>>>>>>> but am unsure to whom I should submit it (after I test):
>>>>>> []
>>>>>>> Agreed - the intention here is certainly to have no side effects. It
>>>>>>> looks like 'no_printk()' is used in quite a few other places that would
>>>>>>> benefit from this change. So we probably want a generic
>>>>>>> 'really_no_printk()' macro.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/6/17/231
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't see this in the tree.
>>>>
>>>> It never got applied.
>>>>
>>>>> Also maybe we should just convert
>>>>> no_printk() to do what your 'eliminated_printk()'.
>>>>
>>>> Some of them at least.
>>>>
>>>>> So we can convert all users with this change?
>>>>
>>>> I don't think so, I think there are some
>>>> function evaluation/side effects that are
>>>> required.  I believe some do hardware I/O.
>>>>
>>>> It'd be good to at least isolate them.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure how to find them via some
>>>> automated tool/mechanism though.
>>>>
>>>> I asked Julia Lawall about it once in this
>>>> thread:  https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/12/3/696
>>>>
>>>
>>> Seems rather fragile to have side effects that we rely
>>> upon hidden in a printk().
>>
>> Yup.
>>
>>> Just convert them and see what breaks :)
>>
>> I appreciate your optimism.  It's very 1995.
>> Try it and see what happens.
> 
> 
> But Aaron says that DYNAMIC_DEBUG is enabled in most major
> distributions, and all these side-effects don't happen with
> DYNAMIC_DEBUG.

When DYNAMIC_DEBUG is enabled we have this wrapper from
include/linux/dynamic_debug.h:

if (unlikely(descriptor.flags & _DPRINTK_FLAGS_PRINT))
	<do debug stuff>

So the compiler is not emitting the side-effects in this
case.

>This suggests that we can make these side-effects not
> happen without DYNAMIC_DEBUG as well.
> Or I am missing something here?
> 

When DYNAMIC_DEBUG is disabled we are instead replacing
pr_debug() with the 'no_printk()' function as you've pointed
out. We are changing this to emit no code at all:

http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=144918276518878&w=2

Thanks,

-Jason
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