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Date:	Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:48:33 +0000
From:	David Laight <David.Laight@...LAB.COM>
To:	'Russell King - ARM Linux' <linux@....linux.org.uk>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@...e.com>
CC:	"linux-mips@...ux-mips.org" <linux-mips@...ux-mips.org>,
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	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
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Subject: RE: [PATCH v2 3/5] printk/nmi: Try hard to print Oops message in
 NMI context

From: Russell King - ARM Linux
> Sent: 04 December 2015 17:13
...
> I have a slightly different view...
> 
> > > I don't see bust_spinlocks() dealing with any of these locks, so IMHO
> > > trying to make this work in NMI context strikes me as making the
> > > existing solution more unreliable on ARM systems.
> >
> > bust_spinlocks() calls printk_nmi_flush() that would call printk()
> > that would zap "lockbuf_lock" and "console_sem" when in Oops and NMI.
> > Yes, there might be more locks blocked but we try to break at least
> > the first two walls. Also zapping is allowed only once per 30 seconds,
> > see zap_locks(). Why do you think that it might make things more
> > unreliable, please?
> 
> Take the scenario where CPU1 is in the middle of a printk(), and is
> holding its lock.
> 
> CPU0 comes along and decides to trigger a NMI backtrace.  This sends
> a NMI to CPU1, which takes it in the middle of the serial console
> output.
> 
> With the existing solution, the NMI output will be written to the
> temporary buffer, and CPU1 has finished handling the NMI it resumes
> the serial console output, eventually dropping the lock.  That then
> allows CPU0 to print the contents of all buffers, and we get NMI
> printk output.

Is the traceback from inside printk() or serial console code
likely to be useful?
If not then why not get the stacktrace generated when the relevant
lock is released?
That should save any faffing with a special buffer.

	David

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