linux-kernel - Re: use-after-free in __perf_install_in

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Message-ID: <CACT4Y+Y_w4oteNLKGE4gVqOpoyrmm+3VQDemGGScbepnXhL4VA@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Tue, 8 Dec 2015 18:56:23 +0100
From:	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@...gle.com>
To:	syzkaller <syzkaller@...glegroups.com>
Cc:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Kostya Serebryany <kcc@...gle.com>,
	Alexander Potapenko <glider@...gle.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
	Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@...cle.com>
Subject: Re: use-after-free in __perf_install_in_context

On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Alexei Starovoitov
<alexei.starovoitov@...il.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 05:12:04PM +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 4:24 AM, Alexei Starovoitov
>> <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com> wrote:
>> > On Mon, Dec 07, 2015 at 05:09:21PM +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
>> >> > So it would be _awesome_ if we could somehow extend this callchain to
>> >> > include the site that calls call_rcu().
>> >>
>> >> We have a patch for KASAN in works that adds so-called stack depot
>> >> which allows to map a stack trace onto uint32 id. Then we can plumb
>> >
>> > I was hacking something similar to categorize stack traces with u32 id.
>> > How are you planning to limit the number of such stack traces ?
>> > and what is the interface for user space to get stack trace from an id?
>>
>>
>> We don't limit number of stack traces. Kernel does not seem to use
>> data-driven recursion extensively, so there is limited number of
>> stacks. Though, probably we will need to strip non-interrupt part for
>> interrupt stacks, otherwise that can produce unbounded number of
>> different stacks.
>> There is no interface for user-space, it is used only inside of kernel
>> to save stacks for memory blocks (rcu callbacks, thread pool items in
>> the future).
>> The design is based on what we successfully and extensively use in
>> user-space sanitizers for years. Current code is here:
>> https://github.com/ramosian-glider/kasan/commit/fb0eefd212366401ed5ad244233ef379a27bfb46
>
> why did you pick approach to never free accumulated stacks?
> That limits usability a lot, since once kasan starts using it only
> reboot will free the memory. ouch.
> what worked for user space doesn't work for kernel.


Freeing and reusing will slow down and complicate code significantly.
And it is not yet proved to be necessary.
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