Message-ID: <56681F9A.6080200@nvidia.com>
Date:	Wed, 9 Dec 2015 12:33:30 +0000
From:	Jon Hunter <jonathanh@...dia.com>
To:	Kevin Hilman <khilman@...nel.org>
CC:	Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@...gutronix.de>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@...dotorg.org>,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@...il.com>,
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	Rafael Wysocki <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@...aro.org>,
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	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@...lion.org.uk>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@...eaurora.org>,
	Vince Hsu <vinceh@...dia.com>, <devicetree@...r.kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 12/16] Documentation: DT: bindings: Add power domain
 info for NVIDIA PMC


On 09/12/15 12:23, Jon Hunter wrote:
> 
> On 08/12/15 19:07, Kevin Hilman wrote:
>> Jon Hunter <jonathanh@...dia.com> writes:
>>
>>> Add power-domain binding documentation for the NVIDIA PMC driver in
>>> order to support generic power-domains.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Jon Hunter <jonathanh@...dia.com>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Please note that I have been debating whether I add this
>>> "nvidia,powergate-clock-disable" property or just leave the clocks
>>> disabled by default. Some downstream kernels leave the clocks enabled
>>> for the audio power-domain because the clocks required for powering up
>>> the power-domain are needed by all modules within the power-domain.
>>> However are the same time there are other power-domains that may need
>>> to be on, but not always clocked and so having the ability to specify if
>>> the clocks should be disabled seems useful. However, I can also remove
>>> this and just have the appropriate devices turn on the clocks as well.
>>> ---
>>>  .../bindings/arm/tegra/nvidia,tegra20-pmc.txt      | 61 ++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>  1 file changed, 61 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/tegra/nvidia,tegra20-pmc.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/tegra/nvidia,tegra20-pmc.txt
>>> index 838e1a69ec0a..8e4641db51a9 100644
>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/tegra/nvidia,tegra20-pmc.txt
>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/tegra/nvidia,tegra20-pmc.txt
>>> @@ -1,5 +1,7 @@
>>>  NVIDIA Tegra Power Management Controller (PMC)
>>>  
>>> +== Power Management Controller Node ==
>>> +
>>>  The PMC block interacts with an external Power Management Unit. The PMC
>>>  mostly controls the entry and exit of the system from different sleep
>>>  modes. It provides power-gating controllers for SoC and CPU power-islands.
>>> @@ -69,6 +71,10 @@ Optional properties for hardware-triggered thermal reset (inside 'i2c-thermtrip'
>>>                       Defaults to 0. Valid values are described in section 12.5.2
>>>                       "Pinmux Support" of the Tegra4 Technical Reference Manual.
>>>  
>>> +Optional nodes:
>>> +- pm-domains : This node contains a hierarchy of PM domain nodes, which should
>>> +	       match the power-domains on the Tegra SoC.
>>> +
>>>  Example:
>>>  
>>>  / SoC dts including file
>>> @@ -114,3 +120,58 @@ pmc@...0f400 {
>>>  	};
>>>  	...
>>>  };
>>> +
>>> +
>>> +== PM Domain Nodes ==
>>> +
>>> +Each of the PM domain nodes represents a power-domain on the Tegra SoC
>>> +that can be power-gated by the PMC and should be named appropriately.
>>> +
>>> +Required properties:
>>> +  - clocks: Must contain an entry for each clock required by the PMC for
>>> +    controlling a power-gate. See ../clocks/clock-bindings.txt for details.
>>
>> We've had this discussiona for a couple of other SoCs, so I need to
>> ask...
>>
>> Presumably these are not device clocks that a runtime PM enabled driver
>> should be managing for a device, right?  IOW, We want to make sure that the
>> PM domain isn't managing clocks for drivers that should be doing it.
>>
>> I understand there are legitimate reasons for the PM domain to manage
>> clocks in addition to device drivers (e.g. for synchronous reset), but
>> just want to be sure it's not a shortcut for having a proper driver.
> 
> So some clocks may also be used by devices, but they are needed as part
> of the power ungating/gating sequence. The general power-up sequence for
> tegra is ...
> 
> 1. Enable the power-domain
> 2. Enable the clock(s)
> 3. Remove signal clamps
> 4. De-assert reset(s)
> 5. Disable clocks (optional)
> 
> You may say we should only handle #1 above for the powering up sequence,
> but we can't do this. The reason is that there is one bit for each
> power-domain that controls the signaling clamps and so we need to turn
> on all the clocks specified in the TRM before we do this. Once we have
> done this and released the reset(s), we can then disable the clocks
> again (shown above an optional as it is not mandatory from a design
> perspective) and then the devices in the power-domain should enable the
> clocks they need as and when they want them.
> 
> Please note that I 100% agree that all clocks required by a device are
> handled by the device and we do not implement any short-cuts here. The
> only question I had was if there are clocks that may be bus clocks in
> the power-domain that are required by all device in the power-domain.
> However, may be this should be represented as a bus driver and all the
> devices are children of it?

Although the "nvidia,powergate-disable-clocks" optional property I had
proposed could be seen as a bit of a short-cut, it is true :-)

May be I should make the disabling of clocks again mandatory for the
power-up sequence.

Jon
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