lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <566ABF86.9030308@synopsys.com>
Date:	Fri, 11 Dec 2015 17:50:22 +0530
From:	Vineet Gupta <Vineet.Gupta1@...opsys.com>
To:	Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@....com>
CC:	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@...aro.org>,
	Jason Cooper <jason@...edaemon.net>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	arcml <linux-snps-arc@...ts.infradead.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"maxime.ripard@...e-electrons.com" <maxime.ripard@...e-electrons.com>
Subject: Re: percpu irq APIs and perf

Hi Marc,

On Friday 11 December 2015 04:53 PM, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Dec 2015 05:26:02 +0000
>> I think we can make percpu irq API a bit easier to use.
>>
>> (1) First thing which request_percpu_irq() does is check for
>> irq_settings_is_per_cpu_devid(). Thus irq_set_percpu_devid() can be built into the
>> API itself eliding the need to set it apriori.
> 
> I don't think we can. At least in the case I'm concerned about (GIC's
> PPIs), this is a hardware requirement. You cannot turn a global
> interrupt into a per-CPU one, nor the other way around.

Understood.

> We also have
> drivers (at least our PMUs) that do test the state of that interrupt
> (per-CPU or not) to find out how they should be requested.

But they call request_percpu_irq() only after determining that irq is percpu.
Otherwise they will call vanilla request_irq()
e.g. drivers/perf/arm/arc_pmu.c

Which means that request_percpu_irq() can safely assume that caller absolutely
wants percpu semantics and hence do equivalent of irq_set_percpu_devid()
internally - NO. I'm sure I'm missing something.


> I agree that the API is probably not the ideal one, but there is HW
> constraints that we cannot just ignore.

The API is pretty nice :-) there are these quirks which I want to avoid.
My naive'ity in this area of code fails me to see how the hardware constraint is
coming into play.


>> (2) It seems that disabling autoen by default for percpu irq makes sense as
>> evident from drivers/net/ethernet/marvell/mvneta.c where users want to control
>> this. However the comment there is misleading
>>
>>     /* Even though the documentation says that request_percpu_irq
>>      * doesn't enable the interrupts automatically, it actually
>>      * does so on the local CPU.
>>      *
>>      * Make sure it's disabled.
>>      */
>>
>> Either sme core code is clearing NOAUTOEN or calling enable_precpu_irq() making
>> request_percpu_irq() enable it.
> 
> If that's the case, this is a bug. Nobody should enable that interrupt
> until the driver has chosen to do so.

Perhaps Maxim can shed more light as this seems to be his comment.


>> IMHO it makes more sense to make autoen explicit in the API.
>> Perhaps introduce a API flavour, which takes the autoen as arg.
>> It could take flags to make it more extensible / future safe but that will be an
>> overkill I think.
> 
> But auto-enabling cannot be done from a single CPU. It can only be done
> from the core that is going to be delivered that interrupt. This
> requires access to registers that are simply not available to other CPUs.

I'm not talking about eliminating enable_percpu_irq() call from all cores and
still getting the auto-enable semantics. What I mean is doing the equivalent of

     irq_set_status_flags(irq, IRQ_NOAUTOEN);

from within request_percpu_irq_xxx() based on an additional arg (vs. doing it
aprioiri outside).

OTOH, thinking a bit more abt this, I think the current semantics of auto-disable
w/o any arg is just fine. Most percpu irqs in general purpose drivers would want
the auto-disable anyways. Only for core irws such as timer / IPI etc do we want
auto-enable.

Thx,
-Vineet

--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ