Message-ID: <566B1F64.9010500@codeaurora.org>
Date:	Fri, 11 Dec 2015 14:09:24 -0500
From:	Sinan Kaya <okaya@...eaurora.org>
To:	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>
Cc:	dmaengine@...r.kernel.org, timur@...eaurora.org,
	cov@...eaurora.org, vinod.koul@...el.com, jcm@...hat.com,
	arnd@...db.de, linux-arm-msm@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, agross@...eaurora.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V9 2/5] dma: add Qualcomm Technologies HIDMA management
 driver

Hi Mark,

On 12/11/2015 11:41 AM, Mark Rutland wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 11:16:58AM -0500, Sinan Kaya wrote:
>> The Qualcomm Technologies HIDMA device has been designed to support
>> virtualization technology. The driver has been divided into two to follow
>> the hardware design.
>>
>> 1. HIDMA Management driver
>> 2. HIDMA Channel driver
>>
>> Each HIDMA HW consists of multiple channels. These channels share some set
>> of common parameters. These parameters are initialized by the management
>> driver during power up. Same management driver is used for monitoring the
>> execution of the channels. Management driver can change the performance
>> behavior dynamically such as bandwidth allocation and prioritization.
>>
>> The management driver is executed in hypervisor context and is the main
>> management entity for all channels provided by the device.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Sinan Kaya <okaya@...eaurora.org>
>> Reviewed-by: Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@...il.com>
>> ---
>>  .../ABI/testing/sysfs-platform-hidma-mgmt          |  97 +++++++
>>  .../devicetree/bindings/dma/qcom_hidma_mgmt.txt    |  61 ++++
> 
> Please split the binding into a separate patch, per
> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/submitting-patches.txt.

Done. I'm new to this. Bare with me.

> 
>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/qcom_hidma_mgmt.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/qcom_hidma_mgmt.txt
>> new file mode 100644
>> index 0000000..b632635
>> --- /dev/null
>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/qcom_hidma_mgmt.txt
>> @@ -0,0 +1,61 @@
>> +Qualcomm Technologies HIDMA Management interface
>> +
>> +The Qualcomm Technologies HIDMA device has been designed
>> +to support virtualization technology. The driver has been
>> +divided into two to follow the hardware design. The management
>> +driver is executed in hypervisor context and is the main
>> +management entity for all channels provided by the device.
>> +
>> +Each HIDMA HW consists of multiple channels. These channels
>> +share some set of common parameters. These parameters are
>> +initialized by the management driver during power up.
>> +Same management driver is used for monitoring the execution
>> +of the channels. Management driver can change the performance
>> +behavior dynamically such as bandwidth allocation and
>> +prioritization.
>> +
>> +All channel devices get probed in the hypervisor
>> +context during power up. They show up as DMA engine
>> +DMA channels. Then, before starting the virtualization; each
>> +channel device is unbound from the hypervisor by VFIO
>> +and assign to the guest machine for control.
>> +
>> +This management driver will  be used by the system
>> +admin to monitor/reset the execution state of the DMA
>> +channels. This will be the management interface.
> 
> This is a mixture of hardware and software description (e.g. VFIO has
> nothing to do wit hteh hardware). We want to capture what is necessary
> to describe the hardware, not what the software stack above it will look
> like.

Another reviewer requested guidance on how to set these parameters.
That's why, I tried to provide as much data as possible.

> 
>> +Required properties:
>> +- compatible: "qcom,hidma-mgmt-1.0";
>> +- reg: Address range for DMA device
> 
> Does this cover just the management registers, or those for channels as
> well?

just management.

> 
>> +- dma-channels: Number of channels supported by this DMA controller.
> 
> Surely this is discoverable, or can be derived from the set of channels
> described in the DT?

No, this is a HW configuration. Each hardware instance supports certain
number of channels based on the HW build. The number of active channels
on the running operating system does not necessarily represent the
maximum possible.

> 
>> +- max-write-burst-bytes: Maximum write burst in bytes. A memcpy requested is
>> +  fragmented to multiples of this amount.
>> +- max-read-burst-bytes: Maximum read burst in bytes. A memcpy request is
>> +  fragmented to multiples of this amount.
>> +- max-write-transactions: Maximum write transactions to perform in a burst
>> +- max-read-transactions: Maximum read transactions to perform in a burst
>> +- channel-reset-timeout-cycles: Channel reset timeout in cycles for this SOC.
>> +- channel-priority: Priority of the channel.
>> +  Each dma channel share the same HW bandwidth with other dma channels.
>> +  If two requests reach to the HW at the same time from a low priority and
>> +  high priority channel, high priority channel will claim the bus.
>> +  0=low priority, 1=high priority
>> +- channel-weight: Round robin weight of the channel
>> +  Since there are only two priority levels supported, scheduling among
>> +  the equal priority channels is done via weights.
> 
> Per the example, these last two seem to be arrays, which wasn't clear
> from the description.

OK, let me clarify this. New text:
+- channel-priority: an array of channel priorities.
+- channel-weight: an array of round robin channel weights

> 
> Why can this information not be associated with the channel directly?
> 
Two reasons:
1. The channel doesn't have the capability to change the priority and
weight. HW design. Management HW can do this only.
2. We are building SW to change the channel priority and weight at
runtime from the hypervisor through sysfs. The system administrator of
the server will reallocate resources based on the guest machine
requirements.

> How does one choose the right priority and/or weight? These seem like
> runtime details given that channels are indned to be allocated by
> software.

priority = 0..1
weight = 0...15 (adding max value to the documentation)

+  Valid values are 1..15.

> 
> There's no relationship to channels defined here. What happens if/when
> you have a system with multiple instances?
> 

I do support multiple instances. I tested with 4 instances (6 channels
each). This driver is only responsible for management which it can do
through its own dedicated HW interface. It doesn't need access to the
channel address space. There will be 4 HIDMA management instances in
this case.

>> +
>> +Example:
>> +
>> +	hidma-mgmt@...84000 = {
>> +		compatible = "qcom,hidma-mgmt-1.0";
>> +		reg = <0xf9984000 0x15000>;
>> +		dma-channels = 6;
>> +		max-write-burst-bytes = 1024;
>> +		max-read-burst-bytes = 1024;
>> +		max-write-transactions = 31;
>> +		max-read-transactions = 31;
>> +		channel-reset-timeout-cycles = 0x500;
> 
> Please fix the syntax here (you're missing '<' and '>' for values.

Good catch

> 
>> +		channel-priority = <1 1 0 0 0 0>;
>> +		channel-weight = <1 13 10 3 4 5>;
>> +	};
> 
> I don't understand why you don't have a single binding for both the
> management interface and channels, e.g.
> 
> hidma {
> 	compatible - "qcom,hidma-1.0";
> 
> 	/* OPTIONAL management interface registers */
> 	reg = < ... ... >;
> 
> 	...
> 
> 	channels {
> 		channel0 {
> 			compatible = "qcom,
> 			reg = < ... ... >;
> 
> 			...
> 		};
> 
> 		...
> 	};
> };
> 
> That would be more in keeping with what we do for other componenents
> with hyp control elements (e.g. the GIC) and keeps everything
> associated.

This was discussed before with the previous versions of the patch. This
split and loose coupling design is on purpose.

The summary is that for static OS configurations where devices remain
active for the rest of the OS execution; it makes perfect sense to
create a device bus or child device object relationship.

The use case here is virtualization and object lifetime in the
hypervisor is dynamic. Channel objects get unbound and bound dynamically
for guest OS control. At any time, the hypervisor may not have any
channel objects if the administrator decides to give all channels to the
guest machines.

Only the hidma channel driver gets executed in the guest machine. There
is no management driver and device entity in the guest. Therefore,
child-parent relationship does not exist.

The object hierarchy is flat and the only object that exist is a channel
object. The channel object can execute independent of the management
interface and other channels in the hypervisor/ other guest machines.


> 
> Thanks,
> Mark.
> 

Thanks for the review.

-- 
Sinan Kaya
Qualcomm Technologies, Inc. on behalf of Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc.
Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc. is a member of Code Aurora Forum, a
Linux Foundation Collaborative Project
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