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Message-ID: <566B4BAA.3030600@zytor.com>
Date:	Fri, 11 Dec 2015 14:18:18 -0800
From:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
To:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
Cc:	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>, Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
	Jiri Slaby <jslaby@...e.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@...el32.net>,
	Florian Weimer <fw@...eb.enyo.de>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@...ntu.com>,
	Jann Horn <jann@...jh.net>,
	"security@...nel.org" <security@...nel.org>,
	"security@...ntu.com >> security" <security@...ntu.com>,
	security@...ian.org, Willy Tarreau <w@....eu>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] devpts: Sensible /dev/ptmx & force newinstance

On 12/11/15 14:12, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>
>> For the newinstance case st_dev should match between the master and the
>> slave.  Unfortunately this is not the case for a legacy ptmx, as a
>> stat() on the master descriptor still returns the st_dev, st_rdev, and
>> st_ino for the ptmx device node.
> 
> Sure, but I'm not talking about stat.  I'm saying that we could add a
> new ioctl that works on any ptmx fd (/dev/ptmx or /dev/pts/ptmx) that
> answers the question "does this ptmx logically belong to the given
> devpts filesystem".
> 
> Since it's not stat, we can make it do whatever we want, including
> following a link to the devpts instance that isn't f_path or f_inode.
> 

Sure.  My thinking, though, was whether or not we can do something that
works on legacy kernels, and/or is less intrusive than new ioctls.

What is the actual operation we need?

	-hpa

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