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Message-ID: <20151215123859.GC6357@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Date:	Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:38:59 +0100
From:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:	Luca Abeni <luca.abeni@...tn.it>
Cc:	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>,
	Steve Muckle <steve.muckle@...aro.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-pm@...r.kernel.org" <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@....com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@....com>,
	Juri Lelli <Juri.Lelli@....com>,
	Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@....com>,
	Michael Turquette <mturquette@...libre.com>
Subject: Re: [RFCv6 PATCH 09/10] sched: deadline: use deadline bandwidth in
 scale_rt_capacity

On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 10:31:13PM +0100, Luca Abeni wrote:

> > There 'might' be smart pants ways around this, where you run part of
> > the execution at lower speed and switch to a higher speed to 'catch'
> > up if you exceed some boundary, such that, on average, you run at the
> > same speed the WCET mandates, but I'm not sure that's worth it.
> > Juri/Luca might know.

> Some previous works (see for example
> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Giuseppe_Lipari/publication/220800940_Using_resource_reservation_techniques_for_power-aware_scheduling/links/09e41513639b2703fc000000.pdf
> ) investigated the usage of the "active utilisation" for switching the
> CPU frequency. This "active utilisation tracking" mechanism is the same
> I mentioned in the previous email, and implemented here:
> https://github.com/lucabe72/linux-reclaiming/commit/49fc786a1c453148625f064fa38ea538470df55b .

I have stuck the various PDFs and commits you've linked into my todo
list ;-) Thanks!

> I suspect the "inactive timer" I used to decrease the utilisation at
> the so called 0-lag time might be problematic, but I did not find any
> way to implement (or approximate) the active utilisation tracking
> without this timer... Anyway, if there is interest I am willing to
> adapt/rework/modify my patches as needed.

So I remember something else from the BFQ code, which also had to track
entries for the 0-lag stuff, and I just had a quick peek at that code
again. And what they appear to do is keep inactive entries with a lag
deficit in a separate tree (the idle tree).

And every time they update the vtime, they also push fwd the idle tree
and expire entries on that.

Or that is what I can make of it in a quick few minutes staring at that
code -- look for bfq_forget_idle().
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