linux-kernel - Re: perf_event_open() ABI compatability

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Message-ID: <20160105090904.GY6357@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Date:	Tue, 5 Jan 2016 10:09:04 +0100
From:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:	Vince Weaver <vincent.weaver@...ne.edu>
Cc:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@...il.com>,
	alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com
Subject: Re: perf_event_open() ABI compatability

On Mon, Jan 04, 2016 at 05:19:13PM -0500, Vince Weaver wrote:
> 
> So I think this might be revisiting an issue that has come up before, but
> we're having backward compatability issues with PAPI and libpfm4 and
> the perf_event_open() system call.
> 
> If a user specifies exclude_guest=1 on an older kernel that doesn't 
> support it, we get the awesome EINVAL error return code and it often
> takes hours to track down the cause.
> 
> Now in theory the ABI is maintained via the "size" field.  So you can
> figure out the size of the attr struct by setting an invalid size
> and then getting E2BIG with size set to the value the kernel expects.
> 		
> This doesn't help with exclude_guest though, as that's in the giant union
> in the middle of the attr, and there's absolutely no mechanism at all
> to tell when that has been extended.
> 
> Is there any solution to all of this, except having to carry around a big 
> table of kernel version numbers for when features were added?

The perf tool does a probe thing where it will, in reverse order of
feature addition remove flags.

The advantage of the dynamic probing is that it will work with franken
kernels that have bits backported; where relying on the kernel version
number is pointless.

But yes, this is all somewhat fugly.

> Ideally we would somehow want E2BIG returned plus the size of __reserved_1 
> if the value of __reserved_1 is not zero.  I suppose at this point in the 
> game it's too late for this to be much help and we're going to have to
> work around the problem forever anyway.

Right :/ So I was hoping some of that extended error reporting stuff
from Alexander Shishkin would help out with this. Not sure where that
stranded -- I think in the attempt to make it too generic or so.

But yes, since that too will only be available in new kernels, old
kernels will still have to cope.

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