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Message-Id: <201601112107.43510@pali>
Date:	Mon, 11 Jan 2016 21:07:43 +0100
From:	Pali Rohár <pali.rohar@...il.com>
To:	Darren Hart <dvhart@...radead.org>
Cc:	Michał Kępień <kernel@...pniu.pl>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@...f.ucam.org>,
	platform-driver-x86@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] dell-wmi: process Dell Instant Launch hotkey on Dell Vostro V131

On Monday 11 January 2016 20:12:26 Darren Hart wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 02:27:45PM +0100, Michał Kępień wrote:
> > > This patch is not enough for enabling 0xe025 key on that Vostro
> > > machine. Some extra SMBIOS call is needed, without them ACPI
> > > will not send WMI keypress event.
> > 
> > Indeed.  But have you read the last e-mail I wrote before
> > submitting the original patch [1]?  Brightness control on the V131
> > is already broken "out of the box" with newer kernels (flickering
> > upon brightness change), but if we do what you're suggesting and
> > include the SMI call in the kernel, we'll break it even more, to
> > the point where pressing one of the brightness control keys might
> > not result in any brightness change at all.  Sure, we can fix that
> > by overriding an arbitrary ACPI method.  Oh, wait, did I say
> > "fix"?
> > 
> > I posted the patch without the SMI call because that way if you
> > want to use the Dell Instant Launch hotkey, you just fire up a
> > userspace script (which uses libsmbios and takes care of
> > overriding the ACPI method) and chances are you will end up with a
> > fully functional system.  Of course you need to understand that
> > using this script is not an elegant solution and that it might
> > break something else, but it's your choice, not the kernel's.  And
> > the patch itself does not change kernel's default behavior, so
> > we're not risking breaking any other models out there.
> > 
> > > At least I think this one patch should not be included into
> > > kernel until there will be full support for 0xe025 key (adding
> > > that SMBIOS call).
> > 
> > Again, fully supporting the Dell Instant Launch hotkey makes
> > brightness control even more broken than it has to be.  In other
> > words, everything is terrible.
> > 
> > The only real solution to all these issues is a BIOS fix and I'm
> > pretty sure it's not happening.
> > 
> > [1] http://www.spinics.net/lists/platform-driver-x86/msg07679.html
> 
> I have this patch as still pending review, and I *think* where we are
> is Pali had some objections but Michal felt they didn't help address
> the problem.
> 
> Where are we?

Hi Darren! Hans fixed our big problem and with his patches (to acpi 
video keypresses) we are able to finally fix support for that Vostro 
machine. I had discussion with Michał and he will prepare new patch 
series with other changes in smbios... So for now just wait when Michał 
is ready.

-- 
Pali Rohár
pali.rohar@...il.com

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