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Message-ID: <10DF45FB-A812-4D6F-8B45-817B86FD48CE@gmail.com>
Date:	Tue, 12 Jan 2016 17:31:04 -0800
From:	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>
To:	Sjoerd Simons <sjoerd.simons@...labora.co.uk>,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>
CC:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: phy: turn carrier off on phy attach

On January 9, 2016 10:44:05 AM PST, Sjoerd Simons <sjoerd.simons@...labora.co.uk> wrote:
>The operstate of a networking device initially IF_OPER_UNKNOWN aka
>"unknown", updated on carrier state changes (with carrier state being
>on
>by default). This means it will stay unknown unless the carrier state
>goes to off at some point, which is not the case if the phy is already
>up/connected at startup.

Correct, drivers typically call netif_carrier_off prior to registering the network device to give a predictable link state, regardless of whether or not they use PHYLIB.

>
>Explicitly turn off the carrier on phy attach, leaving the phy state
>machine to turn the carrier on when it has done the initial
>negotiation.

Same comment as Andrew on the comment below.

Out of curiosity, was there a particular driver you ran into issues with?

-- 
Florian

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